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Post by irf on Jul 4, 2024 11:04:51 GMT
IRF - still here and not convinced by the reply from KR. Plenty of holes. I guess if anyone has been attempting to re-engage with the Kuwaitis again in recent weeks (rumour is someone has in desperation) then it undermines his assertion that they were never regarded as a serious player. Anyway. Moving onto the here and now. 777 haven't walked away from anything easily, ever. (see Everton). A Cap and 777 will not allow a shot gun league to spring up without a battle, you'd assume as it kills their investment stone dead, if it wasn't on life support already. If anyone is buying Lions, they'll need to invest in the millions just to wipe the slate, pay off Dekker etc. isnt happening. Easier to start afresh for a new investor. Can see the BLL as an entity now drifting along until its struck off, maybe another year easily. The people relying on it to function such as Patriots who are in a unique positon from the others, Giants and Lions, will by definition be left in limbo. Truth about Scorchers is every few years they gone and come back under something else, nothing sadly new here so imagine Tallerman speaks a lot of truth on that. Nice reply Yes no doubt 777 lawyers will do whatever they can to recoup any monies from the BBL business They won't just roll over |
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Post by eagles18000 on Jul 4, 2024 11:25:49 GMT
be real
777 aren't going to have any money to employ lawyers. They are a busted flush.
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Post by irf on Jul 4, 2024 12:32:22 GMT
be real 777 aren't going to have any money to employ lawyers. They are a busted flush. They will have assets that get used and sold to pay administrators and liquidators that get called on Which will pay the legal bills And those that get called in have a duty to maximise any monies they can to pay creditors They don't just fail to exist overnight Takes months and months And about doing the best for creditors rather than working for 777 |
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Post by ScottishBasketballFan on Jul 4, 2024 12:49:28 GMT
be real 777 aren't going to have any money to employ lawyers. They are a busted flush. They will have assets that get used and sold to pay administrators and liquidators that get called on Which will pay the legal bills And those that get called in have a duty to maximise any monies they can to pay creditors They don't just fail to exist overnight Takes months and months Yep, my mum was supposed to be getting blinds for the house but the company went bust and they were in the process of appointing liquidators The same Director has had 2 previous companies go down the tubes, the previous company prior to Zone At Home going to the wall went bust due to Covid. |
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Post by eagles18000 on Jul 4, 2024 15:56:37 GMT
Thats not what was said above
It was suggested that A-CAP and 777 would invest in litigation to stop a future league
Which isn't going to happen
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Post by silverbirch on Jul 4, 2024 16:30:38 GMT
I've heard surrey have lost uni funding so are done, Manchester and London will be saved and pats are done. 777 are stopping any new league appearing though so will be a tough goer if it happens at all Wow that is a surprise about Surrey as they are the only club really posting anything at the moment on socials (stuff about HoopsFix Summer league and training photos). Not sure if that is a legit rumor? Its correct that the Sports Park also owned the netball team that has now ended due to the new netball super league selection process but that wasn't their decision they just didn't get accepted by England Netball. |
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Post by dexter on Jul 4, 2024 16:50:37 GMT
I've heard surrey have lost uni funding so are done, Manchester and London will be saved and pats are done. 777 are stopping any new league appearing though so will be a tough goer if it happens at all Wow that is a surprise about Surrey as they are the only club really posting anything at the moment on socials (stuff about HoopsFix Summer league and training photos). Not sure if that is a legit rumor? Its correct that the Sports Park also owned the netball team that has now ended due to the new netball super league selection process but that wasn't their decision they just didn't get accepted by England Netball. There is an update on that. NSL will be an 8 team league as already reported. It has been announced today that there will also be an under 23s Netball Superleague with 9 teams running at the same time. The 9 teams are the same as NSL teams plus Team Bath. Now this is just me speculating but if Bath are allowed a team in the under 23 super league then Surrey would be allowed one too wouldn't they? If they wanted one? It seems that Surrey have decided to give up on their elite sports teams. That's the problem with a university owned team. The university can just decide to pull the team, as we have seen many times before. |
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Post by dexter on Jul 8, 2024 15:05:30 GMT
Still no statement by Surrey Scorchers. They've stopped posting anything and they're not selling season tickets so we can assume the rumours are true.
Trying to look on the bright side, there are only 6 teams left but they all seem pretty solid. 2024/25 might be a rather short, low-key season.
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Post by SamH on Jul 8, 2024 15:13:53 GMT
I think a 6 team league would have to engage with the NBL and see if they can set up some additional tournaments that involve the NBL too, if only to give the fans some variation in who they're watching their team play! I don't mean the league but they could do have the cup as normal, and maybe another event of some kind that involves NBL (the trophy perhaps! brainwave...) or maybe something altogether different. If the NBL are interested of course, but it would give their teams some extra games and an opportunity to play more against higher level opposition.
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Post by dexter on Jul 8, 2024 15:22:12 GMT
I think a 6 team league would have to engage with the NBL and see if they can set up some additional tournaments that involve the NBL too, if only to give the fans some variation in who they're watching their team play! I don't mean the league but they could do have the cup as normal, and maybe another event of some kind that involves NBL (the trophy perhaps! brainwave...) or maybe something altogether different. If the NBL are interested of course, but it would give their teams some extra games and an opportunity to play more against higher level opposition. Yes an extended Trophy competition with the best 4 NBL teams would be good. Maybe as a season opener. As a kind of preseason tournament. |
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Post by irf on Jul 8, 2024 15:34:59 GMT
I think a 6 team league would have to engage with the NBL and see if they can set up some additional tournaments that involve the NBL too, if only to give the fans some variation in who they're watching their team play! I don't mean the league but they could do have the cup as normal, and maybe another event of some kind that involves NBL (the trophy perhaps! brainwave...) or maybe something altogether different. If the NBL are interested of course, but it would give their teams some extra games and an opportunity to play more against higher level opposition. Honestly I don't think playing the same teams more often in the league would be a disaster 3 times each home and away? 30 games? Is that enough for a season |
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Post by SamH on Jul 8, 2024 15:36:05 GMT
Say you have 18-19 teams (give or take) you could have 3 groups with 2 BBL teams in each and the rest made up of NBL teams. Perhaps done geographically to keep it easier for all. Home and away games against each team, group winners and best runner up advance to semi finals. Thats potentially another 8-10 games on the calendar and against a bit more of a variety of opponent. However that's if you want the whole of the NBL involved - daresay some of those games would be completely embarrassing for the lower reaches of D1...
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Post by SamH on Jul 8, 2024 15:37:50 GMT
I think a 6 team league would have to engage with the NBL and see if they can set up some additional tournaments that involve the NBL too, if only to give the fans some variation in who they're watching their team play! I don't mean the league but they could do have the cup as normal, and maybe another event of some kind that involves NBL (the trophy perhaps! brainwave...) or maybe something altogether different. If the NBL are interested of course, but it would give their teams some extra games and an opportunity to play more against higher level opposition. Honestly I don't think playing the same teams more often in the league would be a disaster 3 times each home and away? 30 games? Is that enough for a season I think it could be a bit tiring playing the same teams 6 times each, for the fans and the players - then on top of that cup games, maybe trophy if it comes back, playoffs. Viewer fatigue might set in. I'd think throw some NBL teams in somewhere and reduce the league to 2 home, 2 away v each opponent for a 20 game league. |
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Post by irf on Jul 8, 2024 16:00:46 GMT
Honestly I don't think playing the same teams more often in the league would be a disaster 3 times each home and away? 30 games? Is that enough for a season I think it could be a bit tiring playing the same teams 6 times each, for the fans and the players - then on top of that cup games, maybe trophy if it comes back, playoffs. Viewer fatigue might set in. I'd think throw some NBL teams in somewhere and reduce the league to 2 home, 2 away v each opponent for a 20 game league. Not sure how many league games fans expect on a season ticket? |
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Post by SamH on Jul 8, 2024 16:26:58 GMT
I think the season ticket needs to be priced according to the number of home games expected...
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Post by irf on Jul 8, 2024 16:29:00 GMT
I think the season ticket needs to be priced according to the number of home games expected... I think the clubs will need at least as much for season tickets as they charged last season and as many games as possible to sell tickets for to non season ticket holders Cash flow will be needed as normal |
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Post by irf on Jul 8, 2024 16:31:56 GMT
Riders have started advertising £325 for adults for EVERY home game for next season
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Post by tallerman on Jul 8, 2024 16:40:22 GMT
If you take away Plymouth, Manchester and Surrey you may find the nbl teams don't want to play the others. The wins they could get are essentially gone. To inflate their games they would have to pay their players more as essentially they're working more. It's a nice idea but I think a small season, maybe each team home and away twice with a 4 team playoff is the right rebuild the league needs. Of course Leicester would need to do a refund on the 325 ticket price but I don't blame them selling now
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Post by irf on Jul 8, 2024 16:44:59 GMT
If you take away Plymouth, Manchester and Surrey you may find the nbl teams don't want to play the others. The wins they could get are essentially gone. To inflate their games they would have to pay their players more as essentially they're working more. It's a nice idea but I think a small season, maybe each team home and away twice with a 4 team playoff is the right rebuild the league needs. Of course Leicester would need to do a refund on the 325 ticket price but I don't blame them selling now I will be amazed if the clubs don't find a way to get enough games played to justify season ticket prices Also need lots of home games to pay the player and coach wages I'm sure they won't create a season with less games One way or another They struggle for income all season every season Now will be no different |
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Post by milehigh on Jul 8, 2024 19:14:27 GMT
The more games the side play against each other, the greater the advantage will be to the teams with the best coaching and preparation.
so I would expect some massive win margins in the later games, and very few shock results.
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