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Post by foxtrot27 on Jul 8, 2024 19:16:42 GMT
If you take away Plymouth, Manchester and Surrey you may find the nbl teams don't want to play the others. The wins they could get are essentially gone. To inflate their games they would have to pay their players more as essentially they're working more. It's a nice idea but I think a small season, maybe each team home and away twice with a 4 team playoff is the right rebuild the league needs. Of course Leicester would need to do a refund on the 325 ticket price but I don't blame them selling now I will be amazed if the clubs don't find a way to get enough games played to justify season ticket prices Also need lots of home games to pay the player and coach wages I'm sure they won't create a season with less games One way or another They struggle for income all season every season Now will be no different It will have to be less games as there are less teams. Simple. Whatever league is formed from the BBL ashes, they should consider merging with NBL 1. A six team league is a joke. Especially one that runs the full Sep-Apr season |
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Post by irf on Jul 8, 2024 19:42:50 GMT
I will be amazed if the clubs don't find a way to get enough games played to justify season ticket prices Also need lots of home games to pay the player and coach wages I'm sure they won't create a season with less games One way or another They struggle for income all season every season Now will be no different It will have to be less games as there are less teams. Simple. Whatever league is formed from the BBL ashes, they should consider merging with NBL 1. A six team league is a joke. Especially one that runs the full Sep-Apr season We've said so many times NBL teams don't want to be competing in leagues with BBL teams There's nothing in it for them NBL don't need BBL And BBL can't dictate to NBL what they should do NBL isn't broken |
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Post by sonjel on Jul 8, 2024 20:39:04 GMT
Riders have started advertising £325 for adults for EVERY home game for next season ....every REGULAR SEASON home game |
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Post by dandayr on Jul 8, 2024 21:42:32 GMT
Honestly I don't think playing the same teams more often in the league would be a disaster 3 times each home and away? 30 games? Is that enough for a season I think it could be a bit tiring playing the same teams 6 times each, for the fans and the players - then on top of that cup games, maybe trophy if it comes back, playoffs. Viewer fatigue might set in. I'd think throw some NBL teams in somewhere and reduce the league to 2 home, 2 away v each opponent for a 20 game league. if the product on the floor is good enough - playing each other 6 times in the league is not an issue - just need to look at hockey in uk and the EIHL where the teams play each other 6 times in league, then throw in challenge cup, then play-offs and you could play the same side approaching 10 times. if the product is good enough, its not an issue - here in Scotland, the Clan have announced they have capped the season tickets being sold to max of 2000 (they sold 1700 in first 3wks of sales to ensure tickets avail for those who cant afford the (for cost or time) season ticket commitment (e.g. Adults are £445/£510/£570) so will ensure availability for them as well as the away fans. So facing sides 6 times in league plus likely more times is not putting folk off and tiring for them. Oh and this is the club that finished bottom last season. Basketball clubs across the UK would I am sure love to have season ticket holder numbers like that. Its all about the product. |
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Post by irf on Jul 9, 2024 3:34:21 GMT
Riders have started advertising £325 for adults for EVERY home game for next season ....every REGULAR SEASON home game You are correct I had to look again though Although headline is "every home game" in big text - lower down in smaller text it says "every regular season home game" Which is a bit naughty I think Headline text is misleading for sure |
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Post by dexter on Jul 9, 2024 6:45:14 GMT
....every REGULAR SEASON home game You are correct I had to look again though Although headline is "every home game" in big text - lower down in smaller text it days "every regular season home game" Which is a bit naughty I think Headline text is misleading for sure Yes a little bit naughty, but not as naughty as London Lions selling season tickets and pretending everything is fine. |
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Post by spacejammer on Jul 9, 2024 7:38:57 GMT
You are correct I had to look again though Although headline is "every home game" in big text - lower down in smaller text it days "every regular season home game" Which is a bit naughty I think Headline text is misleading for sure Yes a little bit naughty, but not as naughty as London Lions selling season tickets and pretending everything is fine. I'm suprised London are allowed to sell and aren't kicked out the league for being part of the 777 Circus. To be honest I don't think any team really should be selling tickets until they know for sure what sort of league they are going to have. As for combining the EBL with the BBL the only way I can see this being accepted by the EBL would be if they were to either get some sort of grant to raise their standard as well as support. Or the BBL strips it's standard to make a squad that can compete on a more level playing field. Which is what people outside of Lions were wanting last season for them to drop back and not being miles ahead of every other team in the league. |
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Post by irf on Jul 9, 2024 8:21:54 GMT
Yes a little bit naughty, but not as naughty as London Lions selling season tickets and pretending everything is fine. I'm suprised London are allowed to sell and aren't kicked out the league for being part of the 777 Circus. To be honest I don't think any team really should be selling tickets until they know for sure what sort of league they are going to have. As for combining the EBL with the BBL the only way I can see this being accepted by the EBL would be if they were to either get some sort of grant to raise their standard as well as support. Or the BBL strips it's standard to make a squad that can compete on a more level playing field. Which is what people outside of Lions were wanting last season for them to drop back and not being miles ahead of every other team in the league. As I keep saying NBL isn't broken, does what it does well and the fans enjoy it Leave them be apart from cups etc if they want Don't drag them into the BBL mess |
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Post by dexter on Jul 9, 2024 8:30:54 GMT
Having read and considered the points made, if the remaining 6 teams can maintain last season's high level of quality squads I don't think they have anything to offer NBL teams in way of a combined competition. And as 3 are expected to compete in European competition I wouldn't have thought they intend to let the standard drop. So I think a 6 team league playing eachother lots of times is what's going to happen.
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Post by irf on Jul 9, 2024 8:45:14 GMT
Having read and considered the points made, if the remaining 6 teams can maintain last season's high level of quality squads I don't think they have anything to offer NBL teams in way of a combined competition. And as 3 are expected to compete in European competition I wouldn't have thought they intend to let the standard drop. So I think a 6 team league playing eachother lots of times is what's going to happen. I would take that now given the chance Unless we invite USA Select to spend a season over here! Lol |
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Post by donthatetheplayer on Jul 10, 2024 10:14:37 GMT
The need for the larger clubs with venues to maximise revenue will mean with an ever repeating cycle of games against a very small group of teams. That would potentially be dull as dishwater for fans with teams facing off 2-3 times against each other over 4-6 weeks. We saw that last season and it struggled to remain interesting.
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Post by irf on Jul 10, 2024 10:25:11 GMT
The need for the larger clubs with venues to maximise revenue will mean with an ever repeating cycle of games against a very small group of teams. That would potentially be dull as dishwater for fans with teams facing off 2-3 times against each other over 4-6 weeks. We saw that last season and it struggled to remain interesting. League hasn't been interesting whilst Lions have been spending millions on a squad With the 6 teams likely to be left and with Sharks under new owners then for once every team might think they can actually win it |
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Post by donthatetheplayer on Jul 10, 2024 11:53:29 GMT
Agree it will certainly level the field which is a very good thing but the new approach has to work very hard to retain fan engagement. This last few weeks of nothing so much as "We're working hard to ensure top flight basketball continues and we'll be spelling out our plans in the coming weeks" How hard would that have been? There will be inevitably some lost interest with some perhaps taking a keener eye on D1 etc so if the NBL are smart, they'll capitolise on the chaos. However the new elite league will be very interesting, probably a bit shambolic for a while, but should be treated as a significant, although a final opportunity for a credible elite game in the UK by those running it. The responsibility is huge.
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Post by tallerman on Jul 10, 2024 15:09:05 GMT
Heard from an occasional good source that there will be a public update on Friday about a new leqgue
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Post by dexter on Jul 10, 2024 15:24:51 GMT
Heard from an occasional good source that there will be a public update on Friday about a new leqgue Very exciting. There is now hope we're back up to 7 teams. |
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Post by foxtrot27 on Jul 10, 2024 20:09:21 GMT
Heard from an occasional good source that there will be a public update on Friday about a new leqgue Very exciting. There is now hope we're back up to 7 teams. Fantastic news! A new league with the same team owners that allowed dodgy yanks to destroy the BBL. The circus continues under a different tent! Not impressed. NBL! NBL! |
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Post by irf on Jul 10, 2024 21:00:36 GMT
Very exciting. There is now hope we're back up to 7 teams. NBL! NBL! Enjoy! |
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Post by spacejammer on Jul 10, 2024 21:12:48 GMT
Well if the Eagles Facebook posts are anything to go by then I suspect something is being planned and due to be announced soon in terms of what plans their are for the league.
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Post by mac on Jul 11, 2024 11:55:52 GMT
You are correct I had to look again though Although headline is "every home game" in big text - lower down in smaller text it days "every regular season home game" Which is a bit naughty I think Headline text is misleading for sure Yes a little bit naughty, but not as naughty as London Lions selling season tickets and pretending everything is fine. If Lions are trading while insolvent then I believe the directors are personally liable. If true. |
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Post by tallerman on Jul 13, 2024 8:01:23 GMT
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