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Post by jasong on Aug 2, 2024 23:19:44 GMT
Get a life mate. I’m done here. Yay!!!
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Post by SamH on Aug 3, 2024 1:22:32 GMT
Maybe foxtrot would care to enlighten us as to his background in the sport, since he has mates within it and knows people who know Ron? It's OK to have a differeing opinion on things but you're clearly not just a regular fan, you obviously have some kind of involvement in the sport, so why not elaborate on that? It might even help others better understand your point of view on things?
And I'll take this opportunity to remind people to keep it polite and well mannered. Fine to disagree and challenge but keep it civil please, we don't want to start WBII! 😀
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Post by irf on Aug 3, 2024 5:32:11 GMT
I assume it's Ron you are sympathising with above for trying hard the last 20 years spending other peoples money and not any of the actual guys who have done something in British Basketball during that time spending their own hard earned money who you dislike so much? Mate, what’s your problem? You’re hating on someone you don’t even know and you’re directing that at me. Get a life mate. I’m done here. You have shown double standards throughout the debate above? One standard for existing club and league owners? And another one entirely for Ron Scott? It's not even subtle? And I've just called you out for it. Why should I need to get a life? I'm not hating on anyone. I've defended existing club owners and league owners for actually trying to do something for fans. There's no doubt the odd bad egg in amongst them. That's sports owners though. I've questioned Ron Scott based on his lack of doing anything for fans and his incredibly weird record of promising stuff for 20 years which I only looked into the first time yesterday tbh. His record is laughable at best. Just read his twitter and replies to questions from fans to see he's totally strung along basketball fans for decades ? I don't hate him because I don't know him at all. But in terms of results there's zero he's done that you can actually support or get behind? Complete and abject failure to do what he kept promising to do every year whilst "losing" a fortune of investor money? You talk about hes got great contacts but those same contacts had to wind him up as a business losing millions between them! Yet you back him above whilst comparing everybody else to 777? Why? From the outside looking in Ron looks like a complete charlatan. But with a very thick skin to pull it off for so long? Sam I'm trying to keep it civil. I won't run away from any debate and will always listen if the answers come forward and debate back I do think I am being civil. Albeit Foxtrot doesn't like my questions Of course anyone asking questions like this on Ron's social media would get blocked. So I am glad this forum allows debate
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Post by irf on Aug 3, 2024 5:42:03 GMT
Four years posting obsessively and exclusively about the hopeless state of top tier basketball in this country. Four years of aggressively negative spin on anything and everything BBL related. Then the subject of Ron Scott's PLB comes up... And suddenly the always vociferous 'foxtrot27' has an uncharacteristically soft, glass half full take on the whole thing. He's even trying to play some sort of 'If you don't know someone don't judge them' card. The irony of this guy saying something like that. You couldn't make this shit up. It was obvious within about five minutes of him signing up on the previous board that this was someone with a massive axe to grind. I'm amazed he's been taken seriously on this board for as long as he has but I'm glad the penny is finally dropping. As for the new league name, it's pretty unremarkable. But I'm certainly more interested in a 'super' league that soon will exist than a 'premier' league that won't. Similar with donthatetheplayer
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Post by foxtrot27 on Aug 3, 2024 6:09:40 GMT
Four years posting obsessively and exclusively about the hopeless state of top tier basketball in this country. Four years of aggressively negative spin on anything and everything BBL related. Then the subject of Ron Scott's PLB comes up... And suddenly the always vociferous 'foxtrot27' has an uncharacteristically soft, glass half full take on the whole thing. He's even trying to play some sort of 'If you don't know someone don't judge them' card. The irony of this guy saying something like that. You couldn't make this shit up. It was obvious within about five minutes of him signing up on the previous board that this was someone with a massive axe to grind. I'm amazed he's been taken seriously on this board for as long as he has but I'm glad the penny is finally dropping. As for the new league name, it's pretty unremarkable. But I'm certainly more interested in a 'super' league that soon will exist than a 'premier' league that won't. Similar with donthatetheplayer Again, I won’t knock the guy for trying. It’s his business. And good on him. However, the same owners are responsible for the state the league is in today. They made the choice to take the money from 777 and to give away half the league plus London. And now they left, and trying to start a new league with no comms to the fans, no branding other than a name so generic it’s indistinguishable, no announcement on number of clubs, or cities and as a fan, I’m supposed to support that? So no, I’m not going to knock someone who is trying in favour of the current state of things. And there is a very real chance there will still not be a tip-off in Sep. You need to calm down mate.
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Post by irf on Aug 3, 2024 6:22:23 GMT
Similar with donthatetheplayer Again, I won’t knock the guy for trying. It’s his business. And good on him. However, the same owners are responsible for the state the league is in today. They made the choice to take the money from 777 and to give away half the league plus London. And now they left, and trying to start a new league with no comms to the fans, no branding other than a name so generic it’s indistinguishable, no announcement on number of clubs, or cities and as a fan, I’m supposed to support that? So no, I’m not going to knock someone who is trying in favour of the current state of things. And there is a very real chance there will still not be a tip-off in Sep. You need to calm down mate. How many years of trying and doing zero and how many millions of investor money disappearing would it take for you to think there's something not right here? 777 were complete charlatans. I'm sure they tried to make their scams work. Just at a higher level of investor money lost than Ron You don't give them any credit for trying The current owners try and actually deliver something. But you don't give them any credit for trying? Yet you keep giving credit to someone who's made countless promises to get investment but actually not even tried to start a league yet lost all the investor money How could anyone trust this guy to deliver anything at all with their money with his record? He's a proven failure The due diligence is there for all to see with his failed businesses Foxtrot? I thought you were big on due diligence? Will you knock Ron for the lost £3.5m of investor money? What do you think happened to all that? You wouldn't have made the choice to give the league to 777 Please don't tell me you could give it to this guy ? Lol If I was an investor he wouldn't be getting zero credit from me for trying? Posting tweets making false promises isn't trying?
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Post by irf on Aug 3, 2024 6:54:25 GMT
Wonder if Ron Scott was involved with the anonymous investors who talked for 18 months but didn't actually do anything when it mattered?
It kind of fits ?
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Post by notoriousbigz on Aug 3, 2024 7:23:18 GMT
Similar with donthatetheplayer Again, I won’t knock the guy for trying. It’s his business. And good on him. However, the same owners are responsible for the state the league is in today. They made the choice to take the money from 777 and to give away half the league plus London. And now they left, and trying to start a new league with no comms to the fans, no branding other than a name so generic it’s indistinguishable, no announcement on number of clubs, or cities and as a fan, I’m supposed to support that? So no, I’m not going to knock someone who is trying in favour of the current state of things. And there is a very real chance there will still not be a tip-off in Sep. You need to calm down mate. Ron Scott - apparently "trying" for close to 20 years. Super League Basketball - have got something together and made more progress in the last 20 days than he ever has. Ron Scott - hasn't put any meaningful "comms to the fans", no branding other than two names that are so generic it's indistinguishable, no announcement on cities or clubs, and guess what? There's 100% chance there won't be a tip off in September. Super League Basketball - you known there's teams involved and from which cities, and they're at least working toward a tip off in September. And who is it you choose to back on the basis that theyre trying? Your logic makes 0 sense.
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Post by tallerman on Aug 3, 2024 7:25:51 GMT
Is it too much to ask for you lot to ignore each other? You don't agree with each other, you're clearly not going to change opinions so why bother. This thread has gone completely off topic and its just you two arguing
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Post by foxtrot27 on Aug 3, 2024 7:33:13 GMT
Again, I won’t knock the guy for trying. It’s his business. And good on him. However, the same owners are responsible for the state the league is in today. They made the choice to take the money from 777 and to give away half the league plus London. And now they left, and trying to start a new league with no comms to the fans, no branding other than a name so generic it’s indistinguishable, no announcement on number of clubs, or cities and as a fan, I’m supposed to support that? So no, I’m not going to knock someone who is trying in favour of the current state of things. And there is a very real chance there will still not be a tip-off in Sep. You need to calm down mate. How many years of trying and doing zero and how many millions of investor money disappearing would it take for you to think there's something not right here? 777 were complete charlatans. I'm sure they tried to make their scams work. Just at a higher level of investor money lost than Ron You don't give them any credit for trying The current owners try and actually deliver something. But you don't give them any credit for trying? Yet you keep giving credit to someone who's made countless promises to get investment but actually not even tried to start a league yet lost all the investor money How could anyone trust this guy to deliver anything at all with their money with his record? He's a proven failure The due diligence is there for all to see with his failed businesses Foxtrot? I thought you were big on due diligence? Will you knock Ron for the lost £3.5m of investor money? What do you think happened to all that? You wouldn't have made the choice to give the league to 777 Please don't tell me you could give it to this guy ? Lol If I was an investor he wouldn't be getting zero credit from me for trying? Posting tweets making false promises isn't trying? Your obsession with Ron Scott is interesting. 777 was a convicted cocaine felon. Basically a criminal and criminal organisation. Nothing suggests Ron Scott is anything like that. Do you know who his investors are? Have you talked to them? So you’re just spouting BS about someone and something you clearly don’t know anything about. As long as he’s trying to bring a new angle to the broken model that is British basketball I don’t see a problem. The fact that he’s still out there, backed by someone or something and I hear it Rothschilds and RR still, he might just get lucky. And that should worry some people.
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Post by sonjel on Aug 3, 2024 7:59:01 GMT
As long as he’s trying to bring a new angle to the broken model that is British basketball I don’t see a problem. The fact that he’s still out there, backed by someone or something and I hear it Rothschilds and RR still, he might just get lucky. And that should worry some people. Just for the record it doesn't worry me.
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Post by blueskies99 on Aug 3, 2024 8:13:36 GMT
Is it too much to ask for you lot to ignore each other? You don't agree with each other, you're clearly not going to change opinions so why bother. This thread has gone completely off topic and its just you two arguing ……is this the right thread for an argument……
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Post by notoriousbigz on Aug 3, 2024 8:16:04 GMT
How many years of trying and doing zero and how many millions of investor money disappearing would it take for you to think there's something not right here? 777 were complete charlatans. I'm sure they tried to make their scams work. Just at a higher level of investor money lost than Ron You don't give them any credit for trying The current owners try and actually deliver something. But you don't give them any credit for trying? Yet you keep giving credit to someone who's made countless promises to get investment but actually not even tried to start a league yet lost all the investor money How could anyone trust this guy to deliver anything at all with their money with his record? He's a proven failure The due diligence is there for all to see with his failed businesses Foxtrot? I thought you were big on due diligence? Will you knock Ron for the lost £3.5m of investor money? What do you think happened to all that? You wouldn't have made the choice to give the league to 777 Please don't tell me you could give it to this guy ? Lol If I was an investor he wouldn't be getting zero credit from me for trying? Posting tweets making false promises isn't trying? Your obsession with Ron Scott is interesting. 777 was a convicted cocaine felon. Basically a criminal and criminal organisation. Nothing suggests Ron Scott is anything like that. Do you know who his investors are? Have you talked to them? So you’re just spouting BS about someone and something you clearly don’t know anything about. As long as he’s trying to bring a new angle to the broken model that is British basketball I don’t see a problem. The fact that he’s still out there, backed by someone or something and I hear it Rothschilds and RR still, he might just get lucky. And that should worry some people. If Ron Scott’s backed by the Rothschilds, it’s even more embarrassing for him that nothings happened in 19 years*. Hes not trying to do anything, he’s done nothing, he’ll do nothing. Actions speak louder and there simply are none. *I don’t for a second think he is by the way.
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Post by eagles18000 on Aug 3, 2024 12:30:46 GMT
ron scott is walter mitty is foxtrot
an utter waste of basketball bandwidth.
Ignore him
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Post by foxtrot27 on Aug 3, 2024 13:51:02 GMT
ron scott is walter mitty is foxtrot an utter waste of basketball bandwidth. Ignore him Sure about that mate?
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Post by SamH on Aug 3, 2024 16:16:48 GMT
So you dont want to furnish us with more details about your background in the sport, foxtrot. I see you ignored my question/suggestion. Plus you saud you were done with it but have carried on. I don't want to lock this topic but other folk are right, we're well off track now. I wish I'd never asked jokingly about RS now!😅
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Post by irf on Aug 3, 2024 17:16:08 GMT
As long as he’s trying to bring a new angle to the broken model that is British basketball I don’t see a problem. The fact that he’s still out there, backed by someone or something and I hear it Rothschilds and RR still, he might just get lucky. And that should worry some people. Just for the record it doesn't worry me. Lol
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Post by mac on Aug 3, 2024 21:38:06 GMT
So the website has a contact us page. If I asked "Dear Ron, when does the new league tip off" do you think I might get an answer? No, me neither.
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Post by BallerShad on Aug 3, 2024 21:38:33 GMT
When will Plymouth fans hear about the rebrand?
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Post by mac on Aug 3, 2024 22:01:00 GMT
When will Plymouth fans hear about the rebrand? I suppose when someone updates the website. The news is already on the Eagles website.
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