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Post by irf on Aug 2, 2024 17:20:31 GMT
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Post by foxtrot27 on Aug 2, 2024 17:24:31 GMT
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Post by irf on Aug 2, 2024 17:24:58 GMT
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Post by irf on Aug 2, 2024 17:30:47 GMT
You kind of think after 18 years of not delivering a league the backers may have got bored? I wonder if they even know he still refers to them on his pages
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Post by foxtrot27 on Aug 2, 2024 17:38:10 GMT
You kind of think after 18 years of not delivering a league the backers may have got bored? I wonder if they even know he still refers to them on his pages Or they still stand behind him, we will never know will we? and there's this: basketballsuperleague.com
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Post by irf on Aug 2, 2024 17:48:41 GMT
You kind of think after 18 years of not delivering a league the backers may have got bored? I wonder if they even know he still refers to them on his pages Or they still stand behind him, we will never know will we? and there's this: basketballsuperleague.comWell on this one (another liquidation ive just found) the investment business of those 2 (R and R Partners) were part of the winding up order AGAINST him where his business owed over £3.5m in debts to creditors He's done incredibly well to create the level of debt he managed with his businesses without ever actually starting a league !! Check the statement of affairs prepared by the liquidator (So I think we can safely assume they no longer back his dream)
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Post by irf on Aug 2, 2024 17:58:30 GMT
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Post by irf on Aug 2, 2024 18:03:46 GMT
That's the limit to what I can find about Ron Scott
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Post by foxtrot27 on Aug 2, 2024 18:19:12 GMT
Well on this one (another liquidation ive just found) the investment business of those 2 (R and R Partners) were part of the winding up order AGAINST him where his business owed over £3.5m in debts to creditors He's done incredibly well to create the level of debt he managed with his businesses without ever actually starting a league !! Check the statement of affairs prepared by the liquidator (So I think we can safely assume they no longer back his dream) I have on good authority that he's still very much around and is working with the investment firm Rothschilds as his financial advisor for PLB. My mate confirmed he's raising a fund for a summer league. So I guess we will see or not.
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Post by irf on Aug 2, 2024 18:30:19 GMT
Well on this one (another liquidation ive just found) the investment business of those 2 (R and R Partners) were part of the winding up order AGAINST him where his business owed over £3.5m in debts to creditors He's done incredibly well to create the level of debt he managed with his businesses without ever actually starting a league !! Check the statement of affairs prepared by the liquidator (So I think we can safely assume they no longer back his dream) I have on good authority that he's still very much around and is working with the investment firm Rothschilds as his financial advisor for PLB. My mate confirmed he's raising a fund for a summer league. So I guess we will see or not. Lol He doesn't actually own a business called PBL anymore unless I've missed one?? See if YOU can find one Foxtrot? Assuming you arent being sarcastic above that is? I guess he's got to keep doing something to justify new people to keep investing I feel sorry for the investors tbh Based on what I've found out from an hour or twos googling It's not pretty reading at all Let's be honest
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Post by foxtrot27 on Aug 2, 2024 18:56:10 GMT
I have on good authority that he's still very much around and is working with the investment firm Rothschilds as his financial advisor for PLB. My mate confirmed he's raising a fund for a summer league. So I guess we will see or not. Lol He doesn't actually own a business called PBL anymore unless I've missed one?? See if YOU can find one Foxtrot? Assuming you arent being sarcastic above that is? I guess he's got to keep doing something to justify new people to keep investing I feel sorry for the investors tbh Based on what I've found out from an hour or twos googling It's not pretty reading at all Let's be honest Read some of the stuff. It goes back to 2007 so he’s been at it this long so over almost 20 yrs. My mate say he’s connected to NBA execs and has that support from RR and Rothschilds. No shortage of failed BBL and football clubs in this country so I don’t find his failures that strange.
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Post by tallerman on Aug 2, 2024 18:59:33 GMT
Careful sharing his blog mate, there might be a moderator who wouldn't want some of his most recent ones shown
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Post by irf on Aug 2, 2024 19:29:45 GMT
Lol He doesn't actually own a business called PBL anymore unless I've missed one?? See if YOU can find one Foxtrot? Assuming you arent being sarcastic above that is? I guess he's got to keep doing something to justify new people to keep investing I feel sorry for the investors tbh Based on what I've found out from an hour or twos googling It's not pretty reading at all Let's be honest Read some of the stuff. It goes back to 2007 so he’s been at it this long so over almost 20 yrs. My mate say he’s connected to NBA execs and has that support from RR and Rothschilds. No shortage of failed BBL and football clubs in this country so I don’t find his failures that strange. He hasn't even had a failed league to justify the £3.8m in losses? He just tweets about stuff he never actually does? You are a strange one? How do you possibly defend this but then say the Surrey owners are no better than 777? Are you Ron or one of his family? You have posted like you've got an agenda all along? Seriously how does Ron Scott's business record impress you in any way whatsoever? 777 guys had plenty of good contacts themselves? Will you be investing in Ron's next business?
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Post by foxtrot27 on Aug 2, 2024 19:41:23 GMT
Read some of the stuff. It goes back to 2007 so he’s been at it this long so over almost 20 yrs. My mate say he’s connected to NBA execs and has that support from RR and Rothschilds. No shortage of failed BBL and football clubs in this country so I don’t find his failures that strange. He hasn't even had a failed league to justify the £3.8m in losses ? He just tweets about stuff he never actually does? How do you possibly defend this but then say the Surrey owners are no better than 777? Are you Ron or one of his family? You have posted like you've got an agenda all along? Seriously how does Ron Scott's business record impress you in any way whatsoever? 777 guys had plenty of good contacts themselves? Easy mate. I’ve never met him but know a few people who have and they don’t make him out to be anything untoward. You never met him but you have an opinion? As far as my comments, no agenda just observations. Trying to launch a league in a month with no comms, Brand or Strategy Will result in failure. We don’t know how many teams, and we just got a name BBA and Premier League is taken, by Ron Scott interesting enough.
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Post by irf on Aug 2, 2024 20:32:48 GMT
He hasn't even had a failed league to justify the £3.8m in losses ? He just tweets about stuff he never actually does? How do you possibly defend this but then say the Surrey owners are no better than 777? Are you Ron or one of his family? You have posted like you've got an agenda all along? Seriously how does Ron Scott's business record impress you in any way whatsoever? 777 guys had plenty of good contacts themselves? Easy mate. I’ve never met him but know a few people who have and they don’t make him out to be anything untoward. You never met him but you have an opinion? As far as my comments, no agenda just observations. Trying to launch a league in a month with no comms, Brand or Strategy Will result in failure. We don’t know how many teams, and we just got a name BBA and Premier League is taken, by Ron Scott interesting enough. I'm not actually sure how having 2 failed businesses which had PBL in their limited company name means Ron Scott has that name? Or anything he has done is considered as building a brand? If either of those businesses ever owned the name then the liquidator woukd now own it FWIW not Ron Scott He automatically loses any assets to the liquidator when the company liquidates. Albeit PBL is not really an asset of any value IMO But its immaterial now anyway I guess
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Post by irf on Aug 2, 2024 20:43:22 GMT
He hasn't even had a failed league to justify the £3.8m in losses ? He just tweets about stuff he never actually does? How do you possibly defend this but then say the Surrey owners are no better than 777? Are you Ron or one of his family? You have posted like you've got an agenda all along? Seriously how does Ron Scott's business record impress you in any way whatsoever? 777 guys had plenty of good contacts themselves? Easy mate. I’ve never met him but know a few people who have and they don’t make him out to be anything untoward. You never met him but you have an opinion? As far as my comments, no agenda just observations. Trying to launch a league in a month with no comms, Brand or Strategy Will result in failure. What's best though Foxtrot? Launching an actual league quickly? Or spending 20 years promising to launch an amazing league soon?
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Post by foxtrot27 on Aug 2, 2024 21:13:22 GMT
Easy mate. I’ve never met him but know a few people who have and they don’t make him out to be anything untoward. You never met him but you have an opinion? As far as my comments, no agenda just observations. Trying to launch a league in a month with no comms, Brand or Strategy Will result in failure. What's best though Foxtrot? Launching an actual league quickly? Or spending 20 years promising to launch an amazing league soon? Neither is the answer. And I'm sure its not easy starting anything new. Especially trying to start a new league in the UK with all the negative history.
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Post by irf on Aug 2, 2024 21:31:17 GMT
What's best though Foxtrot? Launching an actual league quickly? Or spending 20 years promising to launch an amazing league soon? Neither is the answer. And I'm sure its not easy starting anything new. Especially trying to start a new league in the UK with all the negative history. I assume it's Ron you are sympathising with above for trying hard the last 20 years spending other peoples money and not any of the actual guys who have done something in British Basketball during that time spending their own hard earned money who you dislike so much?
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Post by foxtrot27 on Aug 2, 2024 22:33:10 GMT
Neither is the answer. And I'm sure its not easy starting anything new. Especially trying to start a new league in the UK with all the negative history. I assume it's Ron you are sympathising with above for trying hard the last 20 years spending other peoples money and not any of the actual guys who have done something in British Basketball during that time spending their own hard earned money who you dislike so much? Mate, what’s your problem? You’re hating on someone you don’t even know and you’re directing that at me. Get a life mate. I’m done here.
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Post by Stephen Abootman on Aug 2, 2024 22:43:18 GMT
Four years posting obsessively and exclusively about the hopeless state of top tier basketball in this country. Four years of aggressively negative spin on anything and everything BBL related. Then the subject of Ron Scott's PLB comes up... And suddenly the always vociferous 'foxtrot27' has an uncharacteristically soft, glass half full take on the whole thing. He's even trying to play some sort of 'If you don't know someone don't judge them' card. The irony of this guy saying something like that. You couldn't make this shit up.
It was obvious within about five minutes of him signing up on the previous board that this was someone with a massive axe to grind. I'm amazed he's been taken seriously on this board for as long as he has but I'm glad the penny is finally dropping.
As for the new league name, it's pretty unremarkable. But I'm certainly more interested in a 'super' league that soon will exist than a 'premier' league that won't.
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