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Post by spacejammer on Feb 25, 2024 19:35:37 GMT
Although I'm not a massive follower of the WBBL. I decided to casually have a look at the what the scores was. And the one that jumped out at me I saw Lions absolutely crushed the Cardiff Met Archers 95-19. Whilst I hate it to look like I crapping on the WBBL or the Archers. Looking at this scoreline and with the losing team also being at home. This is a pretty embarrassing scoreline and a bit of a worry. If I was a home team fan and saw my team lose like this I would probably also be asking for a refund as it looks like only 1 player turned up on the scoresheet scoring 15 of the 19 points. Certainly doesn't look good for the WBBL of you ask me. Makes me also wonder if Cardiff were that bad or do the Lions team not know the meaning of the word mercy? www.wbbl.org.uk/competitions/?WHurl=%2Fcompetition%2F36427%2Fmatch%2F2295029%2Fboxscore%3F
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Post by dexter on Feb 25, 2024 20:01:59 GMT
Although I'm not a massive follower of the WBBL. I decided to casually have a look at the what the scores was. And the one that jumped out at me I saw Lions absolutely crushed the Cardiff Met Archers 95-19. Whilst I hate it to look like I crapping on the WBBL or the Archers. Looking at this scoreline and with the losing team also being at home. This is a pretty embarrassing scoreline and a bit of a worry. If I was a home team fan and saw my team lose like this I would probably also be asking for a refund as it looks like only 1 player turned up on the scoresheet scoring 15 of the 19 points. Certainly doesn't look good for the WBBL of you ask me. Makes me also wonder if Cardiff were that bad or do the Lions team not know the meaning of the word mercy? www.wbbl.org.uk/competitions/?WHurl=%2Fcompetition%2F36427%2Fmatch%2F2295029%2Fboxscore%3FI follow the WBBL a bit. Cardiff are that bad but I would also say London Lions are merciless. They way they celebrate when they crush much weaker opposition, I can't really get my head around that. Unless Cardiff Met invest in their WBBL team I think they would be better off in the NBL.
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Post by D44 on Feb 26, 2024 7:53:50 GMT
Eagles had a couple blow outs on Leeds Force including putting up 148 points once but Leeds did at least manage to score a bit. This Lions team playing in the WBBL is a crazy mismatch, I've been to a couple of Eagles Vs Lions WBBL games and even the height discrepancy is just crazy. Most of the WBBL teams are unpaid Uni teams and Lions budget must be millions.
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Post by spacejammer on Feb 26, 2024 8:52:25 GMT
Eagles had a couple blow outs on Leeds Force including putting up 148 points once but Leeds did at least manage to score a bit. This Lions team playing in the WBBL is a crazy mismatch, I've been to a couple of Eagles Vs Lions WBBL games and even the height discrepancy is just crazy. Most of the WBBL teams are unpaid Uni teams and Lions budget must be millions. Aye but Leeds would have atleast scored 50 points or more in the game which suggests they were able to score some points. Apparently the scoreline in this game was 45-15 to Lions at Halftime. Which means in the whole 2nd half and 20 minutes of basketball they only scored 4 points! Surely no one can think scores like this are good for the league and it makes me wonder how the Lions Ladies feel about it?
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Post by LTfan on Feb 26, 2024 11:15:46 GMT
I agree, this does the WBBL no good whatsoever.
But I don’t know what the answer is. It’s great that the UK has a women’s basketball team being so successful in Europe, but the rules state they have to play in their domestic league too, so it appears we can’t have the good without the bad.
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Post by jt on Feb 26, 2024 11:28:57 GMT
I agree, this does the WBBL no good whatsoever. But I don’t know what the answer is. It’s great that the UK has a women’s basketball team being so successful in Europe, but the rules state they have to play in their domestic league too, so it appears we can’t have the good without the bad. I was thinking about this, but the amount of money/effort/support thats needed to turn the league from semi-pro to pro would be insane I can't really see a solution But equally, GB are ranked 21st for Womens in the world so there needs to be a good standard of league so GB players can play domestically.
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Post by ScottishBasketballFan on Feb 26, 2024 11:35:51 GMT
This is the price you have to pay if you want the British teams to do well in Europe although it's easily achieved when you can throw money around.
If only there was a way they could field a weaker team in the WBBL but field their best side in Europe. That way the WBBL can be more competitive but at the same time allow the team the best chance at being competitive in Europe.
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Post by SamH on Feb 26, 2024 12:09:13 GMT
That is bad yes. The worst score I can recall seeing any of my teams suffer was when Worthing Bears lost most of its roster and coach after the Greg Fullerton mess, 1997. We had 6 players left but at least 3 of them were basically local juniors who'd normally only play garbage time. We had Ryan Williams who became player-coach, Steve Nelson (legend) and Gary Smith left who were what you'd call proper players. And oh look, here come the Sharks fresh from signing John Amaechi post-NBA playing (before he went back there). Holy crap! The score? 107-40. And yet compared to this, that's pretty damn good!
There was also an NBA game a couple of years ago, I forget the score but my OKC thunder lost by 73 points, an NBA record. The difference is we're now sitting pretty in the top 3-4 teams in the league - not sure that's going to happen for Cardiff Archers in a couple of years time!
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Post by dexter on Feb 26, 2024 12:28:09 GMT
Cardiff Met prides itself on being a sports university, and it identifies women's basketball as one of its Performance Sports. The easiest way to be less terrible would be to attract a couple of semi pro players.
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Post by SamH on Feb 26, 2024 18:45:08 GMT
My earlier post got me wondering if I could find much online about that Sharks-Bears game - the answer is very little, although I did find it was actually 113-40 so even worse than initially recalled! Ouch. And it was in 1998 not 97. And yet worse was to come with the infamous 30 game losing streak in the 98-99 season. So if you think your team sucks, just imagine scenes like that. Of course it did make winning the league a few years later that much sweeter! I also remember playing for the Brighton Spares (yep) a hapless bunch of unorganised, uncoordinated, unfit ballers (think Average Joe's Gym) who occasionally had games against other local teams. We did actually manage to win a couple eventually, but before that suffered some big spankings. I remember one game finishing something like 79-21 - STILL not as bad as this Archers effort!
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Post by ScottishBasketballFan on Feb 26, 2024 20:03:03 GMT
I remember Mersey Tigers getting beat 106-45 by Surrey on 22nd September 2012
Flashscore is pretty good for trying to find old results
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Post by ScottishBasketballFan on Feb 26, 2024 21:24:53 GMT
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Post by spacejammer on Feb 26, 2024 23:03:47 GMT
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Post by SamH on Feb 27, 2024 9:50:33 GMT
Makes you wonder how bad Gibraltar must be losing to Wales, looking at how much Wales have been getting whooped by everyone else!
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Post by dexter on Feb 27, 2024 10:01:28 GMT
Makes you wonder how bad Gibraltar must be losing to Wales, looking at how much Wales have been getting whooped by everyone else! They're terrible. They finished last in the 2022 FIBA European Championship for Small Countries. The 2024 tournament is being held in Andorra in June. The teams are Andorra, Malta, San Marino and Gibraltar. I'm quite impressed they actually have a team, but not surprised as basketball is so much more popular in southern Europe.
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Post by dexter on Feb 27, 2024 10:28:34 GMT
Gibraltar's biggest defeat Ireland 112–39 Gibraltar (Cardiff, Wales; 12 December 1990)
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Post by tallerman on Feb 27, 2024 11:59:15 GMT
Big upsets happen when a club is massively over funded or underfunded or both.
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Post by tony on Mar 17, 2024 4:00:36 GMT
Yesterday u14 girls Saturday, 16th March Under 14 Girls 13:00 Fixture code: XG195 Bristol MET Mambas 160 Portsmouth Force 0
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Post by hayesboy on Mar 18, 2024 13:49:36 GMT
A lot of people have been talking about that score Tony. Hard to imagine how a team scores 160pts in a game at that age group even if there is virtually no defence. Also hard to understand why unless there was something related to points difference in relation to the playoffs. It lead me to check Portsmouths other results with the predictable findings that they were all heavy defeats but also many voids/forfeit games too. You wonder at what point in a season BE shoudl step in and say "Team A you have not completed x% of your games with x% of the season gone already. What is happening??"
I heard of an U18 team pulling out of the Conference with 2 weeks to go to the end of the season. Again when you looked they had not played half their games.
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Post by SamH on Mar 18, 2024 14:38:23 GMT
Pretty demoralising for that age as well, won't do them any good to be humiliated like that. You almost feel there should be a duty of care from BE over things like this.
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