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Post by irf on Jun 17, 2024 16:48:00 GMT
The plot thickens!!! The BBL board obviously were aware of what was coming down the line at least 2 weeks before the BBF action...or this was the catalyst for the BBF to get involved! I guess its all linked They obviously knew things were going pear shaped long before May 31st Surprised they lasted that long tbh Also once they know they are insolvent it becomes a crime for directors to keep trading |
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Post by SamH on Jun 17, 2024 17:34:13 GMT
Feels like the Tory MP mass exodus - they can see the writing is on the wall and are bailing out before they get swept up in it!
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Post by donthatetheplayer on Jun 17, 2024 19:40:23 GMT
Walker, Lord and Brown appear to have resigned today and have backdated their resignation to 31st May.
That indicates they were caught out by Friday's BBF announcement.
That will have little effect when the Administrators ask questions. All of those at the top table will be quizzed and investigated and will be tasked to show what actions they took to protect the Company and took appropriate actions to protect shareholders.
The January decision by the Board to take the reported £3 million from 777 may be very problematic.
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Post by irf on Jun 17, 2024 20:16:37 GMT
Walker, Lord and Brown appear to have resigned today and have backdated their resignation to 31st May. That indicates they were caught out by Friday's BBF announcement. That will have little effect when the Administrators ask questions. All of those at the top table will be quizzed and investigated and will be tasked to show what actions they took to protect the Company and took appropriate actions to protect shareholders. The January decision by the Board to take the reported £3 million from 777 may be very problematic. I don't think they can get into trouble for taking money from 777 tbh They can point to bigger sports clubs that have taken far more than BBL have taken And since January too Everton took 16m from 777 at the end of April Something else they can point to to show money was still being injected into sports clubs by 777 albeit always late They can only get into trouble for knowingly trading whilst insolvent and the fact an investor has failed to deliver promised monies on dates promised should cover them in that respect And they've all resigned accordingly |
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Post by milehigh on Jun 17, 2024 20:20:27 GMT
The resignations, probably, were submitted on May 31st. Companies House does tend to be a few days behind in publishing changes.
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Post by sporty7 on Jun 17, 2024 21:19:31 GMT
BBL are still putting stuff out on FB today it dies seem odd, as if they still exist!
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Post by dexter on Jun 17, 2024 21:36:48 GMT
BBL are still putting stuff out on FB today it dies seem odd, as if they still exist! It is very odd. Who even is the BBL now? Is someone actually doing that or is it an AI robot that someone needs to switch off? The BBL is finished. London Lions is something that could be sold in theory, although I can't see anyone wanting to buy it. This isn't like Everton. If someone wants a London professional basketball team they can probably just create a new one. |
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Post by irf on Jun 17, 2024 21:43:47 GMT
BBL are still putting stuff out on FB today it dies seem odd, as if they still exist! It is very odd. Who even is the BBL now? Is someone actually doing that or is it an AI robot that someone needs to switch off? The BBL is finished. London Lions is something that could be sold in theory, although I can't see anyone wanting to buy it. This isn't like Everton. If someone wants a London professional basketball team they can probably just create a new one. Maybe the guy who does their social media is an intern whos not on any salary to realise they stopped paying last month? And it's good for their cv to keep posting Lol |
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Post by SamH on Jun 17, 2024 21:45:46 GMT
I suppose it begs the question, what's happening to the staff who work at the BBL? If they're still putting stuff out then they must still be working, but surely redundancies are not far off now? And who's overseeing their payroll now anyway?
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Post by lochrocks on Jun 20, 2024 15:20:21 GMT
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Post by irf on Jun 20, 2024 15:22:57 GMT
In a briefing held this afternoon, Grant said he expects a “structure [to be] closer to being finalised within a month of now”, somewhat assuaging fan concerns over the upcoming season. Grant confirmed an interim licence for the 2024-25 season, with a duration of one year only, will be granted to help stakeholders navigate the current tumult within our sport and ensure there is competitive basketball for fans to enjoy this coming season. |
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Post by SamH on Jun 20, 2024 16:14:56 GMT
That does sound positive, but again it's a question of how many teams will there be? 7 really doesn't feel enough to make it a decent, competitive league. I've struggled even with 10, always felt that isn't enough. I miss the days of 12, 13 teams and always hoped that could get to 16 but it's going the other way ever so slowly.
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Post by dexter on Jun 20, 2024 17:24:54 GMT
That does sound positive, but again it's a question of how many teams will there be? 7 really doesn't feel enough to make it a decent, competitive league. I've struggled even with 10, always felt that isn't enough. I miss the days of 12, 13 teams and always hoped that could get to 16 but it's going the other way ever so slowly. I don't see how it can be anything other than 7 teams. I wish it could be 8. Plenty of leagues choose to have 8 teams, admittedly these are usually for short competitions such as NSL and The Hundred. There aren't many leagues with just 7 teams, but it's better than nothing. |
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Post by SamH on Jun 20, 2024 21:55:42 GMT
If there will only be 7 teams perhaps some creativity is needed in order to keep things interesting and exciting? I'm not sure what but perhaps a system of bonus points being available for certain achievements? So say you sweep a team, beat them in every game you play in the season, you get 2 bonus points. Or, if you achieve certain goals like having a 120 point game, win a game by 30+ points, shoot 90% at the foul line (minimum 20 attempts) - things like that. When you have done all of them you earn 5 bonus points. Maybe there could be a forfeit system too where points can be lost for things like shooting under 65% from the line, or committing X number of turnovers in a game (even if you win it).
That may sound quite gimmicky but it would keep things more interesting later in the season as teams close in on earning some of those bonuses, in terms of who could win the league and final positions. And it would make individual games more interesting because there could be added incentives for one or both teams in certain games. It might just add some jazz and spice to what could otherwise be a pretty dire season by all accounts.
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Post by spacejammer on Jun 20, 2024 22:14:25 GMT
If there will only be 7 teams perhaps some creativity is needed in order to keep things interesting and exciting? I'm not sure what but perhaps a system of bonus points being available for certain achievements? So say you sweep a team, beat them in every game you play in the season, you get 2 bonus points. Or, if you achieve certain goals like having a 120 point game, win a game by 30+ points, shoot 90% at the foul line (minimum 20 attempts) - things like that. When you have done all of them you earn 5 bonus points. Maybe there could be a forfeit system too where points can be lost for things like shooting under 65% from the line, or committing X number of turnovers in a game (even if you win it). That may sound quite gimmicky but it would keep things more interesting later in the season as teams close in on earning some of those bonuses, in terms of who could win the league and final positions. And it would make individual games more interesting because there could be added incentives for one or both teams in certain games. It might just add some jazz and spice to what could otherwise be a pretty dire season by all accounts. Not sure about this it sounds like the video game from Spacejam New Legacy with the style points etc... I agree with that more teams are needed and maybe to keep some sort of qualification the playoffs should be top 4 and semis then finals only. The only other idea which would be wild would be to make a longer or bigger Cup/Trophy competition that bridges with Basketball Ireland. I mean we know an Irish team is unlikely to join the BBL league but in a one off competition like the EBL and SBL teams they could be more open to. |
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Post by SamH on Jun 20, 2024 22:56:29 GMT
I think there are lots of things they could do rather than just a bland 7 team season with each team playing each other 5 times. They just need to try some ideas out to keep it fresh and interesting, a bit like the NBA with its new in-season tournament which seemed to work really well and added some interest to games that otherwise would have been run of the mill. I think ways to win additional points would do that, but what form it would take would need some thought. I think for the 'playoffs' such as they would be, it would have to be top 4 only, but its not much of a tournament then is it? Win 2 games to win a trophy? Perhaps shake that up too? The top seed plays in a group stage with seeds 4 and 7, and seeds 2,3,5 and 6 play in the other group. Round robin format, with the group winners advancing to the final for a best of 1, winner take all. It's still not ideal because 7 is such a rubbish number, but at least it would create a handful of playoff games.
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Post by dexter on Jun 20, 2024 23:04:11 GMT
I think there are lots of things they could do rather than just a bland 7 team season with each team playing each other 5 times. They just need to try some ideas out to keep it fresh and interesting, a bit like the NBA with its new in-season tournament which seemed to work really well and added some interest to games that otherwise would have been run of the mill. I think ways to win additional points would do that, but what form it would take would need some thought. I think for the 'playoffs' such as they would be, it would have to be top 4 only, but its not much of a tournament then is it? Win 2 games to win a trophy? Perhaps shake that up too? The top seed plays in a group stage with seeds 4 and 7, and seeds 2,3,5 and 6 play in the other group. Round robin format, with the group winners advancing to the final for a best of 1, winner take all. It's still not ideal because 7 is such a rubbish number, but at least it would create a handful of playoff games. All Star game 😄 Seriously though, bringing back BBL Cup would help. And maybe invite NBL D1 teams to compete in the BBL Trophy. I don't have any original ideas. |
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Post by silverbirch on Jun 21, 2024 8:46:15 GMT
If there will only be 7 teams perhaps some creativity is needed in order to keep things interesting and exciting? I'm not sure what but perhaps a system of bonus points being available for certain achievements? So say you sweep a team, beat them in every game you play in the season, you get 2 bonus points. Or, if you achieve certain goals like having a 120 point game, win a game by 30+ points, shoot 90% at the foul line (minimum 20 attempts) - things like that. When you have done all of them you earn 5 bonus points. Maybe there could be a forfeit system too where points can be lost for things like shooting under 65% from the line, or committing X number of turnovers in a game (even if you win it). That may sound quite gimmicky but it would keep things more interesting later in the season as teams close in on earning some of those bonuses, in terms of who could win the league and final positions. And it would make individual games more interesting because there could be added incentives for one or both teams in certain games. It might just add some jazz and spice to what could otherwise be a pretty dire season by all accounts. Although i'm not totally sure of how this would work i do think there is scope for a change up to the traditional 2 pts for a win model. In the Australian Netball superleague teams get 3 points for a win but also there are is 1 point available for each quarter win too. Or in rugby there are bonus points for scoring a certain number of points or winning margins. you could get bonus win points by winning by x points or bonus for losing by only x points. It would then keep games competitive throughout the 40min. If this is a step too far then perhaps it can be trialed during a trophy competition model tournament. Also a straight knockout event with other teams - does it have to be just UK teams, could it be part of a relationship with another European country, e.g. Belgium and Netherlands have a combined country, or the Balkans used to as well. If less teams then it also opens up the opportunity to have larger game series competition in the playoffs, i.e. best of 5 and 7. Perhaps move away the playoffs from a central final and play a series at the clubs. This will dive local revenue to the clubs, which is always needed. Then have the central venue finals for the Cup, trophy, all star, etc. |
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Post by irf on Jun 21, 2024 8:54:57 GMT
All sounds gimmicky to me
Just getting fans to see a league table at matches would be a start for them understanding the meaningfulness of a match they are watching
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Post by tallerman on Jun 21, 2024 12:29:42 GMT
There are some fantastic suggestions here on how to ruin the game further. Play each other 4 times. A 24 game season isn’t a wild suggestion whilst teams are trying to recover. Add the bbl trophy as a straight knockout with 3 nbl1 teams not a sbl team. Playoffs as a best of 3, 4 wins gets you the title
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