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Post by jumbo on Mar 31, 2022 19:38:44 GMT
I know I'm a Nick Nurse homer but I would also add that he won with multiple different teams and budgets. He proved he could arrive at a new team and turn them into winners, usually very quickly, regardless of who it is or what their history was like. Although I do think there has to be credit given for staying with one team long-term, especially when there is success along the way. But it's a different kind of recognition. It's an interesting comparison isn't it. Is it easier to have short term success in multiple places or sustained success in one. Is it more difficult to do what Jose Mourinho did at 3/4 different clubs or what Sir Alex did at United. Not comparing Rob to Nick Nurse as Nick may well have had long term success had he stayed in one place for 10+ years. Just a general question on what people think is more impressive. |
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Post by jumbo on Mar 31, 2022 19:39:45 GMT
I'm not, that would give you two. You've already lost the cup and trophy Could've sworn we won the cup. All the trophies do kind of melt in to one at times. But felt pretty recent. |
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Post by A tall man on Mar 31, 2022 19:50:19 GMT
My apologies, I was sure Bristol knocked you out of that
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Post by irf on Mar 31, 2022 20:25:07 GMT
Count the trophies fellas, you're winning less as time goes on. I'm not saying he's rubbish, I'd love if my club only won 2 awards (I'd love if my club existed also) but you can't deny 2 trophies is less than 3. Rob used to win 3 trophies now with apparently the best squad ever he can only win 2. Its a decline Winning the league is worth the same as winning 5 cups or trophies It's how you identify the best team each season Everything else is peripheral We will take those other trophies if we can but it doesn't really matter as long as we win the league And we are about to win it in potential record breaking fashion We've won more trophies in seasons when other teams have been much closer to us in the league The best teams don't always win the cups and trophies |
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Solly
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Post by Solly on Mar 31, 2022 21:52:57 GMT
Although Paternostro can come across as something of an arse to anyone who's not a Leicester fan, he is up there as possibly the best BBL coach ever.
But where's his ambition?
Leicester no longer seem interested in Europe so he's basically settled for being the best in a very limited area.
Nurse, Finch etc. didn't settle for Little Britain.
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Post by spacejammer on Mar 31, 2022 22:41:24 GMT
Although Paternostro can come across as something of an arse to anyone who's not a Leicester fan, he is up there as possibly the best BBL coach ever. But where's his ambition? Leicester no longer seem interested in Europe so he's basically settled for being the best in a very limited area. Nurse, Finch etc. didn't settle for Little Britain. Tbh I would love to see this Leicester team now have a crack at Europe as this is probably one of the best Leicester teams that I personally have seen. As for Rob to me he's definitely the best coach in the BBL right now and from a Leicester stand point the best Leicester Riders coach that's ever graced the club. But as this thread has already proven I wouldn't exactly call him the greatest BBL coach as others have surpassed him such as Nurse and Finch. And of course Fab who managed to achieve 3 clean sweeps in his coaching career. All 3 who have now also gone on to be head coach or assistant coaches in the NBA as well. Another name I not seen mentioned yet with a high Trophy pedigree Kevin Cadle as well. In terms of the best coach to come to the BBL Rob would definately rank somewhere in the top 10 but certainly not the number 1 spot. Although to be even in the conversation with such greats even if your 9th or 10th best is still a great achievement for him. |
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Post by A tall man on Apr 1, 2022 6:06:17 GMT
Winning the league is worth 5 Cups is quite possibly the most unbasketball thing I've ever seen mentioned on here. Ask the players, they'd all rather the playoffs. That's the one that's highly sort after and the one you should be proud of most, you've won it for the past 6 years!
Rob is probably 3rd overall in my opinion for best bbl coach. I'm not going to include what coaches have done outside of the league as that's irrelevant to their bbl status in my opinion.
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Post by irf on Apr 1, 2022 6:47:42 GMT
Although Paternostro can come across as something of an arse to anyone who's not a Leicester fan, he is up there as possibly the best BBL coach ever. But where's his ambition? Leicester no longer seem interested in Europe so he's basically settled for being the best in a very limited area. Nurse, Finch etc. didn't settle for Little Britain. You can either say it like that Or you can say he's a loyal family man who puts happiness ahead of chasing money |
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Post by irf on Apr 1, 2022 6:54:22 GMT
Although Paternostro can come across as something of an arse to anyone who's not a Leicester fan You mean the incredible will to win Incredible demand for 100 per cent effort From all around him Obsessive to the point of OCD Falling out with anyone that doesn't deliver what he wants from them Winners aren't always likeable But without all the above traits he wouldn't be the success he is (I would also say as soon as the game ends he moves on and in post match interviews is always extremely well spoken and never bitter etc if his team has lost. Can't remember him ever complaining about refs etc after a match for example?) He's an arse during the game. But off the court he's the opposite. From everything I've seen of him Very impressive in that respect |
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Post by Solly on Apr 1, 2022 7:37:51 GMT
Although Paternostro can come across as something of an arse to anyone who's not a Leicester fan You mean the incredible will to win Incredible demand for 100 per cent effort From all around him Obsessive to the point of OCD Falling out with anyone that doesn't deliver what he wants from them Winners aren't always likeable But without all the above traits he wouldn't be the success he is (I would also say as soon as the game ends he moves on and in post match interviews is always extremely well spoken and never bitter etc if his team has lost. Can't remember him ever complaining about refs etc after a match for example?) He's an arse during the game. But off the court he's the opposite. From everything I've seen of him Very impressive in that respect "Never bitter if his team has lost" - as the cockerneys would say "you're having a giraffe!". Irf - next time Leicester lose you need to get within earshot of the table and you will hear the most foul and dirty, and frankly very disappointing and unbecoming, industrial spouting from a very sour individual. And look at him in the wrong way and he's inviting you out to the car park for a right royal rumble! |
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Post by irf on Apr 1, 2022 7:56:00 GMT
You mean the incredible will to win Incredible demand for 100 per cent effort From all around him Obsessive to the point of OCD Falling out with anyone that doesn't deliver what he wants from them Winners aren't always likeable But without all the above traits he wouldn't be the success he is (I would also say as soon as the game ends he moves on and in post match interviews is always extremely well spoken and never bitter etc if his team has lost. Can't remember him ever complaining about refs etc after a match for example?) He's an arse during the game. But off the court he's the opposite. From everything I've seen of him Very impressive in that respect "Never bitter if his team has lost" - as the cockerneys would say "you're having a giraffe!". Irf - next time Leicester lose you need to get within earshot of the table and you will hear the most foul and dirty, and frankly very disappointing and unbecoming, industrial spouting from a very sour individual. And look at him in the wrong way and he's inviting you out to the car park for a right royal rumble! It's called passion He hates to lose Without it he's not half the coach he could be Maybe that's what some of the unsuccessful coaches in BBL are missing? If someone has a go at him he will have a go back But he then moves on Question? Have you ever seen him do an angry/unprofessional interview post match? I've seen other much lesser coaches complain about decisions long after a game in interviews and on social media He is always very professional when the time calls for it Which shows he has different levels for different situations That's a huge skill to have |
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Post by irf on Apr 1, 2022 8:13:16 GMT
Winning the league is worth 5 Cups is quite possibly the most unbasketball thing I've ever seen mentioned on here. Ask the players, they'd all rather the playoffs. That's the one that's highly sort after and the one you should be proud of most, you've won it for the past 6 years! Rob is probably 3rd overall in my opinion for best bbl coach. I'm not going to include what coaches have done outside of the league as that's irrelevant to their bbl status in my opinion. Cable Fab Rob Do you want to name a season when the best team hasn't won the league?? Some of those players need educating as to delivering winning performances week in week out. Discipline, focus and not letting standards slip Maybe they need a better coach? I dont know enough about Cadle But I do know once Rob had similar resources to Fab - Rob left Fab behind as a coach Fab couldn't find the answers. And it was a blessing for Eagles that Fab got the opportunity to work in NBA. You suggested Rob has faced a decline at Riders So if that's a decline how exactly do you describe what happened to Fab as a coach those last few years? He was left behind and failed to step up and respond Rob is a better BBL coach than Fab I've no doubt about that If Rob went to Eagles and Fab replaced him at Riders I would seriously fear for our future success compared to now Ask any Eagles fan who they would want as their next coach given the choice Fab or Rob If they want guaranteed success and were being honest they would all pick Rob If they want sentiment they would pick Fab Am I wrong Eagles fans on here? Be honest with your answers! Who would you choose to coach you next season to start building a successful team again? Rob or Fab? The winners amongst you would choose Rob every time If you are honest? Edit - I've started a poll |
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Post by LTfan on Apr 1, 2022 9:32:28 GMT
Leicester no longer seem interested in Europe so he's basically settled for being the best in a very limited area. I don't know if that's entirely true. I know that when they signed, and resigned, Geno that Europe was mentioned. I don't think he'll stick around for long if that doesn't materialise. |
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Post by irf on Apr 1, 2022 9:37:42 GMT
Us being in Europe would make the league a lot closer
As its an incredible distraction
Hard to manage both
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Post by A tall man on Apr 1, 2022 12:15:28 GMT
Irf back to his nonsense talking ways again.
Imagine thinking Eagles fans want Rob over fab, absolutely laughable statement.
Fab 100% went into decline and ended up in the nba due to connections and 2 decades of excellence.
Last best team to not win the league ? Probably go lions last season. If injuries to key players hadn't have happened, they were the best team.
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Post by dandayr on Apr 1, 2022 12:27:14 GMT
the one you should be proud of most, you've won it for the past 6 years! some sort of April fool prank, or a North Korea type re-writing of the history books ?  dont know the history to say no one has ever one the play-offs for 6 years on the trot - but do recall that in last 6 years the current holder of play-off title was not the prior holder, so no one has won it for the past 6yrs |
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Post by irf on Apr 1, 2022 12:32:58 GMT
Irf back to his nonsense talking ways again. Imagine thinking Eagles fans want Rob over fab, absolutely laughable statement. Fab 100% went into decline and ended up in the nba due to connections and 2 decades of excellence. Last best team to not win the league ? Probably go lions last season. If injuries to key players hadn't have happened, they were the best team. So for eagles to be successful again you honestly think they would choose Fab to come in and coach them ahead of Rob? Only the sentimental ones letting their hearts rule their heads |
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Post by hayesboy on Apr 1, 2022 13:05:47 GMT
Irf back to his nonsense talking ways again. Imagine thinking Eagles fans want Rob over fab, absolutely laughable statement. Fab 100% went into decline and ended up in the nba due to connections and 2 decades of excellence. Last best team to not win the league ? Probably go lions last season. If injuries to key players hadn't have happened, they were the best team. I was sold on coming back to this forum by being told it was just like WB in the good ol' days.....it most certainly is............... 2 pages of posts about a guy being replaced who not only has not lost his job but also is not likely to :-) |
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Post by A tall man on Apr 1, 2022 13:35:46 GMT
Yes I think Eagles would take an nba coach who happens to have won the most trophies in the bbl ever who is loved across the city ovwr Rob
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Post by A tall man on Apr 1, 2022 13:38:33 GMT
the one you should be proud of most, you've won it for the past 6 years! some sort of April fool prank, or a North Korea type re-writing of the history books ? dont know the history to say no one has ever one the play-offs for 6 years on the trot - but do recall that in last 6 years the current holder of play-off title was not the prior holder, so no one has won it for the past 6yrs Youre correct, I'd forgot Leicester didn't make the final last year, chock it up to robs decline |
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