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Post by ScottishBasketballFan on May 20, 2024 9:54:30 GMT
Well that was something. Inviting a 'celebrity' guest who used the words I hope London smoke these bums live on Sky Sports Low point of the season for me. Inexplicable how that was allowed to airpn Sky Sports. Who was it? |
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Post by spacejammer on May 20, 2024 10:43:04 GMT
Low point of the season for me. Inexplicable how that was allowed to airpn Sky Sports. Who was it? It was those Tik Tokers who I had never heard of but were classed as celebrities. When he mentioned that I think even Drew was suprised by that comment. I don't think the league can be held responsible for them saying that as I imagine they probably didn't think he was going to say that. And let's be honest on TV we have all heard fans say worse things in the heat of the moment. I remember one time many years ago during the Tyne and Wear football derby the camera cut to a fan swearing about how bad NUFC was playing when it was viewing the crowd. The commentators just apologised for the language. |
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Post by ScottishBasketballFan on May 20, 2024 11:18:33 GMT
Tik Tok is nothing but a stain on humanity
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Post by massiveridersfan on May 20, 2024 13:20:31 GMT
Well that was something. Inviting a 'celebrity' guest who used the words I hope London smoke these bums live on Sky Sports For me , the real offence was to put the 'interview' onscreen while the game was actually in play. Maceo Jack scored a runaway basket which was one of the highlights of the contest but it was difficult to watch as the coverage had switched to Lasker and his 'celebrity' chums. Obviously, this was deemed sufficiently interesting to share with viewers, when it definitely wasn't. Just a pathetic attempt to liven up the proceedings. Imagine in the FA Cup Final game doing something similar. There'd be howls of outrage, quite rightly. |
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Post by erj14 on May 20, 2024 15:09:41 GMT
Well that was something. Inviting a 'celebrity' guest who used the words I hope London smoke these bums live on Sky Sports For me , the real offence was to put the 'interview' onscreen while the game was actually in play. Maceo Jack scored a runaway basket which was one of the highlights of the contest but it was difficult to watch as the coverage had switched to Lasker and his 'celebrity' chums. Obviously, this was deemed sufficiently interesting to share with viewers, when it definitely wasn't. Just a pathetic attempt to liven up the proceedings. Imagine in the FA Cup Final game doing something similar. There'd be howls of outrage, quite rightly. I don't think I've ever seen a showpiece final telecast where they actually CUT AWAY FROM THE GAME so that they can interview a famous person. Forget the fact they are absolute no marks. Regardless of all the shit going on with 777, Radin needs sacking. He's fucking our league over big style. |
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Post by erj14 on May 20, 2024 15:11:54 GMT
Watching the game as a neutral and also irregular BBL viewer I thought it was good entertainment. I've seen Lions play on TV a few times this season and they actually seem to suffer with having too much depth in games sometimes. They get up a decent lead, rotate in another set of quality players...but who are not necessarily in the groove and it allows the other team to come back. Cheshire were far more enjoyable to watch but I felt they shot too many 3s trying to get back into the game until they realised they didn't have to and got back into it anyway! I agree with Bigz that it was not the smartest move to leave Dekker in the corner but for me there was more than the hint of a foul on Rai's final chuck surely? In the NBA that would be reviewed to death!! The whole story of how the London Lions have got to this stage does somewhat taint their wins but its not the fault of the players or their fans. I would also say that there is something in the fact that they have forced other teams/coaches to really step up their play to try and compete. Credit to Chesire but also others. In terms of teams stepping up to match Lions I agree and disagree with that. I agree in a sense of more teams might have decided to tackle a European competition this season because of Lions and 777. But at the same time I also feel like teams have also rolled over and accept they've been beaten against Lions because they are to heavily stacked. If yesterday's game had have been just a regular season game would Nix have clawed they're way back into it as hard as they did? In Cheshires case probably yes given how hard they fightback. But for others teams once they go down like that the white flag goes up early and teams who don't have the resources or bodies just chalk it up as a loss. And from the games I seen this season at home the only ones I haven't enjoyed have been the Eagles vs Lions matches because Lions ran away with it so much to the point where I was bored. Another thing I noticed is the British basketball Facebook page has some fans ripping the Lions and the league for the 777 connection. Which makes this victory look like a tainted win for the Lions. Please don't parrot this bullshit. Eagles have been aiming for playing in Europe well before these 777 shitstains came in to fuck over our league. Leicester actually PLAYED in Europe before these crooks even knew what the BBL is. |
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Post by spacejammer on May 20, 2024 17:14:35 GMT
In terms of teams stepping up to match Lions I agree and disagree with that. I agree in a sense of more teams might have decided to tackle a European competition this season because of Lions and 777. But at the same time I also feel like teams have also rolled over and accept they've been beaten against Lions because they are to heavily stacked. If yesterday's game had have been just a regular season game would Nix have clawed they're way back into it as hard as they did? In Cheshires case probably yes given how hard they fightback. But for others teams once they go down like that the white flag goes up early and teams who don't have the resources or bodies just chalk it up as a loss. And from the games I seen this season at home the only ones I haven't enjoyed have been the Eagles vs Lions matches because Lions ran away with it so much to the point where I was bored. Another thing I noticed is the British basketball Facebook page has some fans ripping the Lions and the league for the 777 connection. Which makes this victory look like a tainted win for the Lions. Please don't parrot this bullshit. Eagles have been aiming for playing in Europe well before these 777 shitstains came in to fuck over our league. Leicester actually PLAYED in Europe before these crooks even knew what the BBL is. I understand we have been aiming and always talked about but before Lions and 777 change the league how likely were we to do it. Apart from the Riders attempt in the BCL afew seasons ago no other teams apart from Lions were venturing into Europe. And I can't recall a season where 4 teams in a single season attempted to take on Europe. At the beginning of this season especially after a disastrous campaign the last 2 seasons no one could understand why the Eagles were taking on the ENBL this season. However after seeing how one horse raced the BBL had become it became more understandable as to why we did it in order to give us something we have a realistc chance of winning. I know we have already committed to the ENBL next season and gladly so. But if it weren't for the current state of the BBL would Caledonia, Bristol or Newcastle have attempted to go for Europe. Especially when Caledonia were due to move into a new arena and Bristol still in the process of trying to build there's. I would have thought they'd have waited a little longer in getting there new homes established before taking the plunge. |
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Post by johnjack on May 20, 2024 20:11:40 GMT
Please don't parrot this bullshit. Eagles have been aiming for playing in Europe well before these 777 shitstains came in to fuck over our league. Leicester actually PLAYED in Europe before these crooks even knew what the BBL is. I understand we have been aiming and always talked about but before Lions and 777 change the league how likely were we to do it. Apart from the Riders attempt in the BCL afew seasons ago no other teams apart from Lions were venturing into Europe. And I can't recall a season where 4 teams in a single season attempted to take on Europe. At the beginning of this season especially after a disastrous campaign the last 2 seasons no one could understand why the Eagles were taking on the ENBL this season. However after seeing how one horse raced the BBL had become it became more understandable as to why we did it in order to give us something we have a realistc chance of winning. I know we have already committed to the ENBL next season and gladly so. But if it weren't for the current state of the BBL would Caledonia, Bristol or Newcastle have attempted to go for Europe. Especially when Caledonia were due to move into a new arena and Bristol still in the process of trying to build there's. I would have thought they'd have waited a little longer in getting there new homes established before taking the plunge. It’s the one thing that bugs me about basketball, and something that is probably quite hard to sell to a British audience, the fact that entry into Europe is about £££ rather than about attainment. I wonder how far Phoenix would have made it in Europe considering how well the Flyers, Eagles, Gladiators did, then being very average this season. |
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Post by irf on May 20, 2024 22:01:33 GMT
I understand we have been aiming and always talked about but before Lions and 777 change the league how likely were we to do it. Apart from the Riders attempt in the BCL afew seasons ago no other teams apart from Lions were venturing into Europe. And I can't recall a season where 4 teams in a single season attempted to take on Europe. At the beginning of this season especially after a disastrous campaign the last 2 seasons no one could understand why the Eagles were taking on the ENBL this season. However after seeing how one horse raced the BBL had become it became more understandable as to why we did it in order to give us something we have a realistc chance of winning. I know we have already committed to the ENBL next season and gladly so. But if it weren't for the current state of the BBL would Caledonia, Bristol or Newcastle have attempted to go for Europe. Especially when Caledonia were due to move into a new arena and Bristol still in the process of trying to build there's. I would have thought they'd have waited a little longer in getting there new homes established before taking the plunge. It’s the one thing that bugs me about basketball, and something that is probably quite hard to sell to a British audience, the fact that entry into Europe is about £££ rather than about attainment. I wonder how far Phoenix would have made it in Europe considering how well the Flyers, Eagles, Gladiators did, then being very average this season. The thing is The BBL clubs in Europe would likely have done better domestically if they hadn't had to deal with the extra pressures and workload created by Europe Equally Phoenix would have certainly struggled a bit more domestically had they had to contend with Europe Riders should have done way better this year in a season where so many clubs had Europe to focus on as well as BBL |
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Post by D44 on May 22, 2024 13:21:59 GMT
I understand we have been aiming and always talked about but before Lions and 777 change the league how likely were we to do it. Apart from the Riders attempt in the BCL afew seasons ago no other teams apart from Lions were venturing into Europe. And I can't recall a season where 4 teams in a single season attempted to take on Europe. At the beginning of this season especially after a disastrous campaign the last 2 seasons no one could understand why the Eagles were taking on the ENBL this season. However after seeing how one horse raced the BBL had become it became more understandable as to why we did it in order to give us something we have a realistc chance of winning. I know we have already committed to the ENBL next season and gladly so. But if it weren't for the current state of the BBL would Caledonia, Bristol or Newcastle have attempted to go for Europe. Especially when Caledonia were due to move into a new arena and Bristol still in the process of trying to build there's. I would have thought they'd have waited a little longer in getting there new homes established before taking the plunge. It’s the one thing that bugs me about basketball, and something that is probably quite hard to sell to a British audience, the fact that entry into Europe is about £££ rather than about attainment. I wonder how far Phoenix would have made it in Europe considering how well the Flyers, Eagles, Gladiators did, then being very average this season. There's not too much merit in 'qualifying' when most teams change 80% to 90% of their roster season to season. |
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Post by Stephen Abootman on May 22, 2024 19:46:42 GMT
The thing is The BBL clubs in Europe would likely have done better domestically if they hadn't had to deal with the extra pressures and workload created by Europe Equally Phoenix would have certainly struggled a bit more domestically had they had to contend with Europe Riders should have done way better this year in a season where so many clubs had Europe to focus on as well as BBL Not too sure about that. We almost made a final and finished 5th in the league with what was probably, at best, the 4th biggest budget. Certainly not a good season given what we've got used to from Riders over the past decade or so but equally not significant underachievement relative to spending. Probably about what we should have expected in fact given the lack of continuity and chronic lack of experience in the side. When Riders were in Europe back in 2018/19 we finished second in the league and won the playoffs. Competing in Europe Cup or the ENBL really isn't that massive a burden. |
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Post by spacejammer on May 22, 2024 21:33:06 GMT
The thing is The BBL clubs in Europe would likely have done better domestically if they hadn't had to deal with the extra pressures and workload created by Europe Equally Phoenix would have certainly struggled a bit more domestically had they had to contend with Europe Riders should have done way better this year in a season where so many clubs had Europe to focus on as well as BBL Not too sure about that. We almost made a final and finished 5th in the league with what was probably, at best, the 4th biggest budget. Certainly not a good season given what we've got used to from Riders over the past decade or so but equally not significant underachievement relative to spending. Probably about what we should have expected in fact given the lack of continuity and chronic lack of experience in the side. When Riders were in Europe back in 2018/19 we finished second in the league and won the playoffs. Competing in Europe Cup or the ENBL really isn't that massive a burden. I think from what I have seen now from how much it has costed Lions. I think for pretty much all BBL clubs both Eurocup and Euroleague. I think most clubs don't have the talent, financial resources and the supporter appettie for mid week basketball to be able to cope with the demands and competition levels of those leagues. However I think the BCL, Europe Cup and ENBL are probably better build blocks for clubs where we can look to make a start and test the waters to see if it can be possible. I know people go on about saying that team from Europe ain't that great and so on. But let's be honest do we real care what level the European opposition at this stage? To me London Lions probably could have played in BCL or ENBL and the excitement levels would have been the same as if they were welcoming Barcelona or Bayern Munich to the Copperbox. I certainly look forward to watching another season of ENBL action next year at the Eagles and hope we continue to keep playing in that league for seasons to come. |
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Post by LTfan on May 23, 2024 8:23:11 GMT
Not too sure about that. We almost made a final and finished 5th in the league with what was probably, at best, the 4th biggest budget. Certainly not a good season given what we've got used to from Riders over the past decade or so but equally not significant underachievement relative to spending. Probably about what we should have expected in fact given the lack of continuity and chronic lack of experience in the side. When Riders were in Europe back in 2018/19 we finished second in the league and won the playoffs. Competing in Europe Cup or the ENBL really isn't that massive a burden. I think from what I have seen now from how much it has costed Lions. I think for pretty much all BBL clubs both Eurocup and Euroleague. I think most clubs don't have the talent, financial resources and the supporter appettie for mid week basketball to be able to cope with the demands and competition levels of those leagues. However I think the BCL, Europe Cup and ENBL are probably better build blocks for clubs where we can look to make a start and test the waters to see if it can be possible.I know people go on about saying that team from Europe ain't that great and so on. But let's be honest do we real care what level the European opposition at this stage? To me London Lions probably could have played in BCL or ENBL and the excitement levels would have been the same as if they were welcoming Barcelona or Bayern Munich to the Copperbox. I certainly look forward to watching another season of ENBL action next year at the Eagles and hope we continue to keep playing in that league for seasons to come. I agree in regards to FIBA Europe Cup and ENBL, but the FIBA Basketball Champions League is about on the same level as the EuroCup. There's a reason it's rumoured the EuroCup and Basketball Champions League are going to merge and form a new super league after next season - it'll bring together the countries that simply prefer one competition over the other. |
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