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Post by SamH on Feb 23, 2024 1:34:01 GMT
To be honest I been seeing more and more articles from the NBA calling this year the death of the All Star Game. I wonder what will be done next season to change this or if they will do away with it and go for something else? They did do that NBA in season tournament back in November & December which sounded like it was successful. Maybe the NBA would consider investing more into that and running it in the 2nd half of the season as opposed to the beginning of the season. No, the whole point of the in-season tournament was to boost interest in the early part of the season, which it did. A lot of fans only start watching games at Christmas time, so they wanted to try and get the early part of the season more of a following. I really don't know what to do with the all star game - as long as it still draws good TV ratings then it will continue to be done in some form or other but at this point it does almost feel like you just say these are the all stars for this year, and don't play the game. The players want to be named an all star, it is still a badge of honour for them - but clearly they don't want to play the game. Money could be an incentive - $1M to each player on the winning team maybe, but even then when they are getting $20-50M a year each anyway, does it make much difference? One idea being floated was that the winning conference gets home court advantage in the finals, whichever team makes it there. But I don't really like an exhibition game deciding something that currently gets decided across 82 real games. How about this though - points are awarded for various acts in the game. So a steal or a block gets you say, 5 points. Forcing a turnover before a shot is taken gets you 5 points. So the defensive end is actually earning you more points than the scoring end. It's pretty radical and guys still might not care much to try as they don't really care who wins, but it might help somewhat? |
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Post by mac on Feb 23, 2024 9:50:20 GMT
To be honest I been seeing more and more articles from the NBA calling this year the death of the All Star Game. I wonder what will be done next season to change this or if they will do away with it and go for something else? They did do that NBA in season tournament back in November & December which sounded like it was successful. Maybe the NBA would consider investing more into that and running it in the 2nd half of the season as opposed to the beginning of the season. No, the whole point of the in-season tournament was to boost interest in the early part of the season, which it did. A lot of fans only start watching games at Christmas time, so they wanted to try and get the early part of the season more of a following. I really don't know what to do with the all star game - as long as it still draws good TV ratings then it will continue to be done in some form or other but at this point it does almost feel like you just say these are the all stars for this year, and don't play the game. The players want to be named an all star, it is still a badge of honour for them - but clearly they don't want to play the game. Money could be an incentive - $1M to each player on the winning team maybe, but even then when they are getting $20-50M a year each anyway, does it make much difference? One idea being floated was that the winning conference gets home court advantage in the finals, whichever team makes it there. But I don't really like an exhibition game deciding something that currently gets decided across 82 real games. How about this though - points are awarded for various acts in the game. So a steal or a block gets you say, 5 points. Forcing a turnover before a shot is taken gets you 5 points. So the defensive end is actually earning you more points than the scoring end. It's pretty radical and guys still might not care much to try as they don't really care who wins, but it might help somewhat? . I particularly like the last paragraph! Back in the day I loved the All Star game. As I've got older (and a lot grumpier) I've come to value good defence above everything else. Having said that I would have McGill as first pick. His D is exceptional but his speed on the ball is breathtaking. Definitely in my all time top five. |
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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan2 on Feb 23, 2024 13:19:19 GMT
How about this though - points are awarded for various acts in the game. So a steal or a block gets you say, 5 points. Forcing a turnover before a shot is taken gets you 5 points. So the defensive end is actually earning you more points than the scoring end. It's pretty radical and guys still might not care much to try as they don't really care who wins, but it might help somewhat? Radical certainly, can't think anything any other unusual points system. Unless of course they have something like a magic button giving you extra points at a certain time but that'd be far too silly. |
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Post by SamH on Feb 23, 2024 16:09:09 GMT
Yeah I thought about that - I think I suggested it as something to jazz up the BBL all star game once. Put some hot spots on the court worth more points or something. But definitely not for the NBA - they're all so trigger happy from range as it is, we don't need them to be even more encouraged!
Hey, maybe they could do 3 points for wide open dunks, so the defender has to at least try and get a stop and only give up the usual 2 if they get it! It also rewards playing defence that leads to fast break opportunities...
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Post by eillo23 on Feb 23, 2024 16:29:59 GMT
Unfortunately I don't see the NBA allstar game improving, no matter what is done. I struggle to even watch regular season NBA games as they are not always played competitively. I enjoyed watching the Rising stars game more, young guys with more to prove and playing with a chip on their shoulder.
As much as the BBL Allstar game is getting negativity (before its even happened), I don't mind it. I can see it being played in a more competitive nature to the NBA game. And seeing the likes of Dekker play alongside Allen etc, is interesting to watch. I can see it getting a good crowed and good viewing figures. Even those with an already negative outlook on it will put it on to see what it is about. One thing we cant argue with is that the production at recent finals etc has improved since the takeover. I can see this being a great event. The dunk contest has potential to be great, as long as the real high flyers in the league sign up for it, i.e. Wang, Pipkins, Sharma etc, and the same with the 3point comp, hard to see past Quinn Cooper!
I for one will give it a chance before making judgement.
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Post by johnjack on Feb 29, 2024 13:24:58 GMT
To be honest I been seeing more and more articles from the NBA calling this year the death of the All Star Game. I wonder what will be done next season to change this or if they will do away with it and go for something else? They did do that NBA in season tournament back in November & December which sounded like it was successful. Maybe the NBA would consider investing more into that and running it in the 2nd half of the season as opposed to the beginning of the season. How about USA v The Rest Of The World (who play in the NBA) Doncic, Jokic, Wemby et al v Steph, Lebron ............. That might be worth watching and might have a bit of bite to it |
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Post by LTfan on Feb 29, 2024 15:04:40 GMT
To be honest I been seeing more and more articles from the NBA calling this year the death of the All Star Game. I wonder what will be done next season to change this or if they will do away with it and go for something else? They did do that NBA in season tournament back in November & December which sounded like it was successful. Maybe the NBA would consider investing more into that and running it in the 2nd half of the season as opposed to the beginning of the season. How about USA v The Rest Of The World (who play in the NBA) Doncic, Jokic, Wemby et al v Steph, Lebron ............. That might be worth watching and might have a bit of bite to it I’m sure a remember a USA v The World game as part of the All-Star weekend, but I think it was with the younger players or something. I agree it’s quite a good idea though. |
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Post by SamH on Feb 29, 2024 16:52:38 GMT
Yeah I think they did do it for the rising stars once or twice, not sure why it changed but they're always playing around with the format of that - which right now is terrible. 4 teams, 3 games played to 40 points? No! Just go back to rookies vs Sophs or east v West, maybe keep the 2 x 20 minute halves though so the game isn't overly long. To be fair this year at least, the young guys played more competitively than the main game players did.
I think for the main game US vs World could work, yeah. Make it like the Ashes or something, where there's a trophy and the other side has to try and win it back the next year if they don't have it. They could even make it USA and Canada vs the world as there are a couple of all star Canadians knocking about most of the time (including now).
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Post by dexter on Feb 29, 2024 23:05:25 GMT
BBL North bench now also named.
Pipkins
Rideau
McGill
Moore Jnr
Jamell Anderson.
It's a really good squad. 4 Eagles. 3 Phoenix. And one each from Gladiators, Giants and Sharks.
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Post by dexter on Feb 29, 2024 23:09:33 GMT
BBL South bench
Olaseni
Mackenzie
Olison
Wang
Atwood.
3 Lions. 3 Riders. 2 Flyers. 1 each from Scorchers and Patriots.
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Post by LTfan on Mar 1, 2024 8:14:28 GMT
So, looking at the full lineups of 10 players (why 10, why not 12?) who do you think is the strongest team - the North All Stars or the South All Stars?
They’re both impressive lineups, but I’m going with the South.
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Post by johnjack on Mar 1, 2024 8:53:43 GMT
BBL North bench now also named. Pipkins Rideau McGill Moore Jnr Jamell Anderson. It's a really good squad. 4 Eagles. 3 Phoenix. And one each from Gladiators, Giants and Sharks. The fact that Coach Gareth only selected CMJ from his own team, what does that say about what he thinks of his own squad? (no Whelan, Alihodzic, Palyza)or is he resting peeps while using up the players of his closest rivals in Phoenix & Eagles From the other coaches, my main worry would be injuries going into probably the most vital few weeks of the Championship. Its not great timing |
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Post by dexter on Mar 1, 2024 9:16:26 GMT
BBL North bench now also named. Pipkins Rideau McGill Moore Jnr Jamell Anderson. It's a really good squad. 4 Eagles. 3 Phoenix. And one each from Gladiators, Giants and Sharks. The fact that Coach Gareth only selected CMJ from his own team, what does that say about what he thinks of his own squad? (no Whelan, Alihodzic, Palyza)or is he resting peeps while using up the players of his closest rivals in Phoenix & Eagles From the other coaches, my main worry would be injuries going into probably the most vital few weeks of the Championship. Its not great timing It is somewhat surprising that the team that is third in the championship has only one player in the All Star team, but the squad selected is really good. There are no inclusions that are controversial. Star players seem to have been selected for either All Star game or GB games. This could have been deliberate and might be why Whelan wasn't picked for this. |
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Post by Stephen Abootman on Mar 1, 2024 18:19:16 GMT
I'm pretty sure it was a requirement that one reserve be selected from every team. So the sides with no starters were only ever going to have one representative. It is a bit surprising that Clifton Moore has ended up being that guy from Gladiators but it makes sense from a balancing standpoint. Whelan (if he even cares) would definitely be within his rights to feel snubbed.
As for players getting injured... If it's anything like the NBA game then I think that's very unlikely. Jogging up and down a court for 20 odd minutes hoisting threes and making uncontested layups/dunks is pretty low risk stuff. If the South win the tip I quite fancy a 30ft Teddy Allen 3pt bomb being the first shot attempt of the game. Just hope he and Matt Morgan don't end up getting into a wrestling match in their inevitable quests to be the 'MVP'.
Sam Dekker has no business even being a reserve for the South never mind a starter. It could have worked out a lot worse but the voting should have been done differently. Would have been seriously embarrassing for the league if someone like Blake Bowman (who I'm pretty sure was 4th among forwards last time I checked) had snuck into the game.
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