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Post by mansfieldmike on Jan 11, 2024 12:28:33 GMT
Surely even if Eagles lose in Bristol but beat Riders on the 19th in Newcastle, Eagles would go through in 2nd place cos’ they won the head to head against Riders? It’s also possible that Flyers, Eagles and Riders all get two wins, what happens then? Thanks for that, but where is this documented? If Eagles and Riders end up with two wins each, will total points difference count, or will the winner of the Eagles/Riders match go forward. |
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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan2 on Jan 11, 2024 14:39:31 GMT
Hope somsbody knows, it may mean teams accepting a 6 or 8 point loss rather than foul/ take a 3 point shot in the last minute to protect the points difference issue.
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Post by LTfan on Jan 11, 2024 14:48:18 GMT
I believe total points scored for/against across the competition then becomes a deciding factor, not sure exactly how though. Thanks for that, but where is this documented? If Eagles and Riders end up with two wins each, will total points difference count, or will the winner of the Eagles/Riders match go forward. Don't know. I was just going by what Dan Routledge said in comms last week - something along the lines of teams will still want to score as many points as they can in the closing minutes and seconds in the very unlikelihood it's needed as a decider to determine who finishes where in the group. |
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Post by sonjel on Jan 11, 2024 18:02:38 GMT
Thanks for that, but where is this documented? If Eagles and Riders end up with two wins each, will total points difference count, or will the winner of the Eagles/Riders match go forward. Don't know. I was just going by what Dan Routledge said in comms last week - something along the lines of teams will still want to score as many points as they can in the closing minutes and seconds in the very unlikelihood it's needed as a decider to determine who finishes where in the group. Which would explain why Rob told Miryne to shoot with 1 second on the clock when he was holding on to the ball after rebounding Giants missed buzzer beating attempt. |
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Post by spacejammer on Jan 11, 2024 21:47:32 GMT
To be fair whilst I'm gutted we lost the Cup competition.
Whilst not everyone is a fan of 777 so far I actually do like this competion tournament style for the Trophy and pausing the league for a month.
I would probably be in favour of scrapping the All Star game, bringing back the BBL Cup as a knockout with a shoecase final and then having a best of 3 playoffs.
I would probably even do the Cup in the first half of the season with the final in December before Christmas and then the Trophy competition in Febuary.
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Post by dandayr on Jan 11, 2024 23:29:18 GMT
To be fair whilst I'm gutted we lost the Cup competition. Whilst not everyone is a fan of 777 so far I actually do like this competion tournament style for the Trophy and pausing the league for a month. I would probably be in favour of scrapping the All Star game, bringing back the BBL Cup as a knockout with a shoecase final and then having a best of 3 playoffs. I would probably even do the Cup in the first half of the season with the final in December before Christmas and then the Trophy competition in Febuary. The FIBA rulebook is very clear on how you classify tied Win Loss record teams in a round robin format group like this - I think all people are not sure on is if it is documented somewhere that the Trophy is being played to these rules or to BBL specific ones. Anyway, here is the standard FIBA way to classify if tied page79: ![]() www.fiba.basketball/documents/official-basketball-rules/current.pdfNote standard FIBA is 2pts for win 1pt for loss - Trophy table is 2pts win 0pts loss hence my comment about if standard FIBA classification will be used or a BBL defined method. |
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Post by LTfan on Jan 12, 2024 21:48:45 GMT
The state of Group B is a lot clearer after tonight’s results…
London have done enough to win the group.
Leicester and Newcastle will go head to head next Friday night, with the winner taking the remaining semi-final place in Birmingham.
Bristol and Manchester are out of the competition.
Meanwhile in Group A mathematically any team could still win the group and any team could still come last.
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Post by stevetino on Jan 12, 2024 22:44:44 GMT
Expecting Caledonia and Cheshire to come out of that
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Post by LTfan on Jan 13, 2024 8:43:04 GMT
Expecting Caledonia and Cheshire to come out of that I agree about Cheshire, but not as convinced about Caledonia. If they do managed to be the other team that gets out of the group that’ll be quite impressive given the hole they dug for themselves with their first couple of games. |
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Post by stevetino on Jan 13, 2024 9:31:36 GMT
Expecting Caledonia and Cheshire to come out of that I agree about Cheshire, but not as convinced about Caledonia. If they do managed to be the other team that gets out of the group that’ll be quite impressive given the hole they dug for themselves with their first couple of games. Who else is going to make it then LTFAN? Sheffield are in poor form, maybe Surrey over Plymouth, hard to see? I’m sticking with Caledonia |
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Post by LTfan on Jan 13, 2024 10:19:14 GMT
I agree about Cheshire, but not as convinced about Caledonia. If they do managed to be the other team that gets out of the group that’ll be quite impressive given the hole they dug for themselves with their first couple of games. Who else is going to make it then LTFAN? Sheffield are in poor form, maybe Surrey over Plymouth, hard to see? I’m sticking with Caledonia I wouldn’t bet against Caledonia, but I wouldn’t bet my house on them either. I think Surrey or Plymouth could surprise us all. |
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Post by tvtigersfan on Jan 13, 2024 23:38:02 GMT
While still expecting Surrey to blow the final four spot, I’m curious to know whether the club’s will be selling tickets directly to their supporters? Or would you have to buy though the BBL’s ticket partner?
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Post by naenia on Jan 14, 2024 10:47:28 GMT
While still expecting Surrey to blow the final four spot, I’m curious to know whether the club’s will be selling tickets directly to their supporters? Or would you have to buy though the BBL’s ticket partner? I think it's all just being done together through Ticket Factory. Lions have already guaranteed their place in Birmingham and, having just had a quick look, I can't see anything specific from them. I've been in previous years and always seen blocks of team fans though, so did they used to sell via the teams or would that just have been fans coordinating themselves? |
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Post by spacejammer on Jan 14, 2024 11:19:41 GMT
While still expecting Surrey to blow the final four spot, I’m curious to know whether the club’s will be selling tickets directly to their supporters? Or would you have to buy though the BBL’s ticket partner? To be honest that's the one thing that sort of does suck is the fact that asides from London who you pretty much expectd to be there. Most fans from every other team were probably waiting and seeing if their team makes it which means it's harder to book tickets, travel and hotels in advance. I went to Birmingham for a non BBL event as well 2 years ago and found it is quite expensive for a hotel stay there outside a hostel unless you book like 1 year in advance. I wonder if teams who make it will put on a supporters package. I know Newcastle United for last year's Carabao Cup final and Champions League had the travel agencies doing supporters packages and its the same whenever England FC play I notice Caledonia Travel doing one too. But I suspect for Basketball it sadly won't be the same atleast not until the game and league grows even more. |
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Post by milehigh on Jan 14, 2024 20:15:26 GMT
Usually clubs will have a block of tickets to sell to their supporters.
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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan2 on Jan 15, 2024 0:52:01 GMT
Usually clubs will have a block of tickets to sell to their supporters. Clubs usually do have a block. If you have a look at the last two trophy finals it's clear where the Phoenix fans are sitting, excellent choice of shirt colours let us show how much support the team get at these events. |
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Post by LTfan on Jan 17, 2024 16:29:55 GMT
Usually clubs will have a block of tickets to sell to their supporters. Same goes for the Play-Off Final at the O2 too. I agree it results in some very last minute planning though. |
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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan2 on Jan 17, 2024 19:05:25 GMT
Usually clubs will have a block of tickets to sell to their supporters. Same goes for the Play-Off Final at the O2 too. I agree it results in some very last minute planning though. It was dead easy in last years final. Phoenix had a section reserved for us and everywhere else had Caledonian supporters. |
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Post by LTfan on Jan 17, 2024 19:51:49 GMT
Same goes for the Play-Off Final at the O2 too. I agree it results in some very last minute planning though. It was dead easy in last years final. Phoenix had a section reserved for us and everywhere else had Caledonian supporters. Unlike London Lions last year with the Play- Off Final at the O2, where they restricted their tickets to select groups (like season ticket holders) until 3 days before the game, resulting in quite a few unsold seats. I understand giving the likes of season ticket holders priority access for 24 hours or so, but holding back your fan section tickets until 3 days before the game was stupid. |
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Post by LTfan on Jan 19, 2024 13:14:37 GMT
I'll get my prediction in early... the Final Four line-up will be London v Caledonia & Cheshire v Leicester.
If correct, I think that'll make a good Saturday of basketball.
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