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Post by spacejammer on Sept 17, 2023 8:04:19 GMT
Saw this article on BBC which states this season NBA teams are only going to be allowed to rest 1 star per game. On one hand I agree with this but on the other hand I feel this could mess up a teams strategy and could anger teams if a player gets injured before an important game or it makes them less able to share minutes if they want to run their bench for a game. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/basketball/66804477
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Post by SamH on Sept 17, 2023 10:59:50 GMT
I think its a good thing. Having been to a few games myself, I can remember hoping and hoping the best players would be playing (not least in Washington, 2003 when a certain M.Jordan was on the roster!)
Also, the price of tickets now is absurd so they need to do what they can to justify that. Im going to Orlando in March and there are 4 games on during my stay, but when I saw the prices for even a half decent seat, I was really put off. Its not like the Magic are even a top team, by March they might well be out of the playoff race and playing for nothing.
Back in the day lots of guys routinely played 82 games year after year. Now things are easier with more advanced training, fewer back to backs, no more 4 games in 5 nights, travel has been reduced, there's a week off for the all star break, etc. The guys from the 80s and 90s must think its pathetic now. Karl Malone for example, hardly ever missed a game and he always played a lot of playoff games each season too, and he did national team duty. He didn't retire until his late 30s.
I just don't think rest games are all that beneficial especially for younger guys. I also think this is why we're not seeing many 60 win teams anymore. It used to be normal to see 3 or 4 teams win 60+ games, now its about 55-58 wins for the top teams.
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Post by spacejammer on Sept 17, 2023 11:11:12 GMT
I think its a good thing. Having been to a few games myself, I can remember hoping and hoping the best players would be playing (not least in Washington, 2003 when a certain M.Jordan was on the roster!) Also, the price of tickets now is absurd so they need to do what they can to justify that. Im going to Orlando in March and there are 4 games on during my stay, but when I saw the prices for even a half decent seat, I was really put off. Its not like the Magic are even a top team, by March they might well be out of the playoff race and playing for nothing. Back in the day lots of guys routinely played 82 games year after year. Now things are easier with more advanced training, fewer back to backs, no more 4 games in 5 nights, travel has been reduced, there's a week off for the all star break, etc. The guys from the 80s and 90s must think its pathetic now. Karl Malone for example, hardly ever missed a game and he always played a lot of playoff games each season too, and he did national team duty. He didn't retire until his late 30s. I just don't think rest games are all that beneficial especially for younger guys. I also think this is why we're not seeing many 60 win teams anymore. It used to be normal to see 3 or 4 teams win 60+ games, now its about 55-58 wins for the top teams. Fair enough but I know that some teams if they have like a less strong NBA team like Charlotte or Houston and then know their playing the Celtics or 76ers next night. They might look at it as a chance to preserve their key men for the bigger game. I also wondered if teams will look for ways round this like playing their star players for like 10 seconds of a quarter and bringing them straight off so they can technically say they played. Or perhaps players might fake injuries even?
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Post by SamH on Sept 17, 2023 12:22:35 GMT
Yes, there are sure to be work arounds. They also stipulated players can only won awards if they play 65 games or more so that will help ensure they play when healthy as most players will miss some games for genuine injury anyway.
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Post by spacejammer on Sept 17, 2023 12:56:41 GMT
Yes, there are sure to be work arounds. They also stipulated players can only won awards if they play 65 games or more so that will help ensure they play when healthy as most players will miss some games for genuine injury anyway. True but given how long the season is and how deep NBA teams are. I understand the fans maybe paying to see Luca Donic, Joel Embid and Jayson Tatum etc... But if your a rookie or someone who wants to make their mark in the league. If a teams big stars is wanting to sit out then those games are the opportunity to make their mark and get meaningful minutes. I feel as though this rule kind of means they lose out abit. I also think you have to ask who counts as a star player exactly. Obviously we know some of who their referring to but what if your like the 11th player on the bench for the team. Would you be counted as a star player? And is their a limit like with the BBL where you can only name 12 players on a match day? Surely in that case it would just lead to teams signing more rookie players on 10 day contracts and declaring them like they did with Covid-19 lock outs?
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Post by SamH on Sept 17, 2023 14:51:37 GMT
They have defined star players as anyone who made an all star game or all nba team in the last 3 years. That seems reasonable to me. So teams could still rest other starters which would give rookies a chance to play more. Also there are a bunch of exceptions, like anyone over 35, anyone who has played a certain number of career games or minutes, etc. So guys like Curry and LeBron could still be rested although I think the rule is they have to rest for home games or something like that.
I am in favour of this and im pleased the nba recognises and values fans in this manner. I actually think the best way to incentivise playing would be to start putting clauses in contracts that state you don't get paid for rest games. Although generally I hear that players always want to play, its management that prevent them so its not really the players who need the encouragement!
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