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Post by spacejammer on Nov 18, 2022 21:53:57 GMT
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Post by notoriousbigz on Nov 18, 2022 22:16:00 GMT
Adam Sandler scouts one overseas brickie on a park and the world goes crazy.
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Post by SamH on Nov 19, 2022 0:19:37 GMT
Not a chance, just BS media shit stirring. Next we'll be reading that Canada is the best at snooker.
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Post by LTfan on Nov 19, 2022 8:46:35 GMT
I’m trying to understand the logic behind this ‘news’… am I right in saying these world rankings are only based on performance in FIBA affiliated competitions, which the NBA is not. In a nutshell does that essentially explain it?
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Post by spacejammer on Nov 19, 2022 9:43:27 GMT
Adam Sandler scouts one overseas brickie on a park and the world goes crazy. To be fair it is a great flim. Although despite them being good enough to compete with them. I reckon USA would most likely beat Spain in an exbition game. I can confirm that this is not made up as I have found further link to prove the rankings have changed! en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIBA_Men%27s_World_RankingAnd whilst the US are still the Kings of Basketball. I do think the a few countries in the world of Basketball are able to match them and beat them too. The Olympics in 2020/21 the US team looked deflated and not wanting to be there. But still managed to take the Gold. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2022 12:17:45 GMT
USA could pick the 4th or 5th best at each position and would still win 9/10 times let’s be honest
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Post by D44 on Nov 19, 2022 13:56:37 GMT
I don't really think USA care about any international competitions other than the Olympics. The FIBA Americup where they lost to Argentina was all G league players and Argentina had Campazzo, Laprovitalla, Deck et all. World Cup They're usually down to third or fourth choice players in every position with a couple of token all stars.
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Post by SamH on Nov 19, 2022 17:11:18 GMT
The only thing that stops USA is being unable to play as a cohesive team and adapting to the FIBA rules. When they get that right, it's over.
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Post by LTfan on Nov 19, 2022 18:17:35 GMT
I don't really think USA care about any international competitions other than the Olympics. The FIBA Americup where they lost to Argentina was all G league players and Argentina had Campazzo, Laprovitalla, Deck et all. World Cup They're usually down to third or fourth choice players in every position with a couple of token all stars. In my opinion I don’t think they really care about basketball in the Olympics either, they only put the effort in they do to save face and make a point that the US rules basketball. |
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Post by LTfan on Nov 19, 2022 18:21:14 GMT
The only thing that stops USA is being unable to play as a cohesive team and adapting to the FIBA rules. When they get that right, it's over. I’d say the only thing that stops the USA is the disjointed relationship between the NBA and FIBA, which admittedly is better now than it was. If the NBA always allowed the USA to put its best players forward in every international competition they’d win >95% of the time. |
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Post by SamH on Nov 19, 2022 18:42:40 GMT
However, the gap is much closer now than 30 years ago, so you have to wonder what it'll be like in another 20 or 30 years. The demographics in the NBA are also massively different now. I think it's something like a third of players are non-American now; 30 years ago it was about 1%. Not to mention how many of the top players are non-American now.
So I could see the landscape continuing to shift, but the problem is these international competitions are not USA v the world, so each country is still spread thinner than them for real world class players.
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Post by spacejammer on Nov 19, 2022 19:02:01 GMT
I don't really think USA care about any international competitions other than the Olympics. The FIBA Americup where they lost to Argentina was all G league players and Argentina had Campazzo, Laprovitalla, Deck et all. World Cup They're usually down to third or fourth choice players in every position with a couple of token all stars. In my opinion I don’t think they really care about basketball in the Olympics either, they only put the effort in they do to save face and make a point that the US rules basketball. I thought that but then my perception changed once I saw the "Redeem Team documentary" although with American NBA players like Lebron they tend to do only acouple of stints and then step aside for someone else to have a turn since US have so many players to choose from. Whereas if your from another country like Solvenia with Luka Donic for example. You probably have and are expected to play for your national team for the duration of your career. Because even when your playing in the NBA you are considered the face of basketball in your country. |
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Post by SamH on Nov 19, 2022 19:42:01 GMT
Yeah, like Luol Deng here...oh wait.😡
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Post by spacejammer on Nov 19, 2022 20:09:34 GMT
Yeah, like Luol Deng here...oh wait.😡 To be honest I don't know what happened to Deng in recent years other then I know he's now retired and done some work for Africa basketball. But back in 2012 before the Olympics he was our face of GB basketball for some time. Back on topic some US players I think playing for the national team can be seen as an opportunity to have some career glory and silverware. For instance Charles Barkley sadly never won an NBA Championship during his career however he did managed to win gold with the Dream Team in 1992. I can see that being a reason for some players wanting to represent. Another interesting player you may have heard of is former Brazilian Player Oscar Schmit who is regarded as one the best players to have never played in the NBA. During his career he refused to play in the NBA a few times because back then NBA players weren't allowed to play for their countries. He finished having scoring the most number of proffesional basketball points ever and even Kobe was an admirer of him. |
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