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Post by spacejammer on Sept 2, 2022 17:24:54 GMT
After the disappointment this afternoon and seeing how thin crowd numbers are it got me thinking given how the Newcastle have their own arena with Sheffield and Bristol also building ones as aswell.
Along with Leicester who are the main tenants of their venue and Worcester.
And some of the huge arenas like the Cooper Box in the country could we ever possibly host the competition ourselves one day?
I understand its unlikely to happen especially not anytime soon given the lack of media coverage but would this be a good way of raising the profile of the sports national team and domestic league?
Thoughts? 🏀🏆🇬🇧
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Post by D44 on Sept 2, 2022 17:38:25 GMT
Could? Probably.
Should? Absolutely not, the folks at GB basketball can't even organise a training camp before crucial qualifiers.
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Post by dexter on Sept 2, 2022 18:49:56 GMT
I doubt it. 99% of Brits have no idea EuroBasket is on. And GB will probably go this whole tournament winless.
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Post by spacejammer on Sept 2, 2022 19:13:36 GMT
I doubt it. 99% of Brits have no idea EuroBasket is on. And GB will probably go this whole tournament winless. You say that but you saw what London 2012 did for women's football and if they market it right then the UK could get behind it even if GB doesn't progress far. Usually when a big sporting event kicks off we tend to do well at drawing the crowds even at our domestic league finals now tend to be sold out. I was also looking at the recent Commonwealth Games and even the 100 Cricket. Whilst I have never been the Hundred I do see glimpses of it on TV and noticed way more fans then I have ever seen at a normal test match. |
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Post by tallerman on Sept 2, 2022 20:23:13 GMT
London held the euro league final four and nobody showed up
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Post by dexter on Sept 2, 2022 20:27:17 GMT
I doubt it. 99% of Brits have no idea EuroBasket is on. And GB will probably go this whole tournament winless. You say that but you saw what London 2012 did for women's football and if they market it right then the UK could get behind it even if GB doesn't progress far. Usually when a big sporting event kicks off we tend to do well at drawing the crowds even at our domestic league finals now tend to be sold out. I was also looking at the recent Commonwealth Games and even the 100 Cricket. Whilst I have never been the Hundred I do see glimpses of it on TV and noticed way more fans then I have ever seen at a normal test match. Women's team sports is pretty big now, especially in the big 3 sports (football, cricket and rugby). The British media has a blind spot for basketball, especially any basketball that isn't the NBA. I believe London Lions playing in EuroCup and hopefully eventually Euroleague is the best way to grow the profile of basketball in Britain. |
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Post by dandayr on Sept 3, 2022 9:31:39 GMT
After the disappointment this afternoon and seeing how thin crowd numbers are it got me thinking given how the Newcastle have their own arena with Sheffield and Bristol also building ones as aswell. Along with Leicester who are the main tenants of their venue and Worcester. And some of the huge arenas like the Cooper Box in the country could we ever possibly host the competition ourselves one day? I understand its unlikely to happen especially not anytime soon given the lack of media coverage but would this be a good way of raising the profile of the sports national team and domestic league? Thoughts? 🏀🏆🇬🇧 If you only watched the GB game - I can understand this thought on low crowds, but the crowds were not low and were bigger than any of those arenas you mention can hold. The issue was ticket holders were not interested in GB/UKR in a feast of basketball. Tickets in Milan are sold as a session 1 or a full day ticket. Yesterday session 1 covered GB/UKR and Greece/Croatia - the ticket holders piled in for that 2nd game ok, they just did not come in to watch the opener that was also on their ticket price. Then the full day ticket had those two plus Italy/Estonia - packed. Got a long way to go in our governing bodies, let alone our crowds, before FIBA going to look at UK as a serious potential host for a group in a Eurobasket. |
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Post by ScottishBasketballFan on Sept 3, 2022 11:29:35 GMT
There's a massive difference between Basketball & Women's football, such a comparison is silly.
England are one of the top Women's teams whereas GB basketball are terrible and poor. There is more chance of one of us winning EuroMillions than there is of us hosting a major International basketball tournament
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Post by dexter on Sept 3, 2022 12:20:28 GMT
There's a massive difference between Basketball & Women's football, such a comparison is silly. England are one of the top Women's teams whereas GB basketball are terrible and poor. There is more chance of one of us winning EuroMillions than there is of us hosting a major International basketball tournament A proper basketball tournament at the Commonwealth Games was probably our best opportunity to host an international basketball tournament, but for whatever reason that didn't happen. |
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Post by spacejammer on Sept 3, 2022 16:50:57 GMT
There's a massive difference between Basketball & Women's football, such a comparison is silly. England are one of the top Women's teams whereas GB basketball are terrible and poor. There is more chance of one of us winning EuroMillions than there is of us hosting a major International basketball tournament A proper basketball tournament at the Commonwealth Games was probably our best opportunity to host an international basketball tournament, but for whatever reason that didn't happen. But with the CWG's your competing with a range of other sports whereas a basketball only tournament would centre tbe focus purely on Bball. I was just thinking if the Eagles, Flyers, Sharks and Nix all have purpose built arenas for it then it could be considered. Although the last 2 GB home games didn't have as many home fans as I would have hoped there. But after last Sunday I imagine alot of other nationalities would bring spectators though. And big events like this are said to help our economy. |
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Post by dexter on Sept 3, 2022 19:56:42 GMT
In 1998 team sports were added to the Commonwealth Games. That means field hockey, netball and rugby sevens. I really think basketball missed a trick here. Basketball should have been added but there might be a good reason why it wasn't. Since 1998 Australia has hosted the CWG on two occasions and both times they held basketball tournaments, which they won.
At this year's CWG a basketball tournament could have been hosted at the University of Worcester Arena or at the Copper Box Arena. Maybe there wasn't a tournament due to teams having other commitments or players needing an off season.
I would like to see a basketball tournament in the UK but I don't think we will ever host EuroBasket, so a CWG basketball tournament seemed like the only chance we had. The only other alternative I can think of would be an invitational tournament.
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Post by bullets92 on Sept 4, 2022 12:19:37 GMT
I'm on the way back from Milan as we speak.
Estonia flew out 2000 fans plus their own cheerleaders.
Greece must have had close to that number.
Croatia had several hundred for the first game vs Greece.
I'd say London has just a good appeal if not greater to fans of these countries then Milan. Not sure if we could encourage as many to come to Newcastle/Birmingham/Glasgow but it does show....
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Post by donnyf on Sept 7, 2022 13:48:20 GMT
I got back from Milan yesterday. We were amazed at the amount of Estonian fans that were there. Every Estonia game was essentially a home game for them. Met a good number of them in the hostelries of Milan in the evenings too, great bunch of lads. Greece and Croatia also had good numbers. I see no reason why London couldn't hold the event but i'd say there would be a good chance GB fans would still be outnumbered. Fans from countries such as these are fanatical and will follow their team anywhere in numbers.
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Post by spacejammer on Sept 7, 2022 15:05:34 GMT
I got back from Milan yesterday. We were amazed at the amount of Estonian fans that were there. Every Estonia game was essentially a home game for them. Met a good number of them in the hostelries of Milan in the evenings too, great bunch of lads. Greece and Croatia also had good numbers. I see no reason why London couldn't hold the event but i'd say there would be a good chance GB fans would still be outnumbered. Fans from countries such as these are fanatical and will follow their team anywhere in numbers. I think overall could we host the competition. With the right people and the amount of arenas as well as a few basketball purpose stadiums/arenas of course we could host Eurobasket or the Fiba World Cup and for the foreign nationals it would be treat to have it here. But in terms of our GB team and home support we would need a stronger squad and more money in order to make noise around. Otherwise we would be the nation hosting the party, going to bed early and all the other guests will be taking over and just stealing our beer. |
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Post by tugger on Sept 8, 2022 0:00:17 GMT
I think Newcastle and Leicester are too small to host games. Am I correct in thinking that Leicester doesn't conform to Fiba requirements?
I would have thought the only suitable arenas, capacity wise, are the O2 in London and the National Stadium in Cardiff.
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Post by spacejammer on Sept 8, 2022 19:37:36 GMT
I think Newcastle and Leicester are too small to host games. Am I correct in thinking that Leicester doesn't conform to Fiba requirements? I would have thought the only suitable arenas, capacity wise, are the O2 in London and the National Stadium in Cardiff. I'm pretty sure Leicester hosted a GB match against Greece 5 years ago in 2017. Whether that means the rules for venue requirements between actual competitions, friendlies and qualifiers are different I would not know. |
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