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Post by spacejammer on Jul 23, 2022 14:23:15 GMT
Hi guys from watching other sports over the summer such as Champions League final and it got me thinking would having one of the finals in a different venue every year possibly be a way of growing the sport especially in non BBL cities?
Like one year you play the final in Cardiff and the next year you go for Nottingham or Edinburgh etc....
Thoughts?
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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan2 on Jul 23, 2022 14:51:46 GMT
Have you any specific venues in mind in those cities? It would be good to spread things around more, but it can be a pain to go up to Glasgow ( except when you win of course) every time but it must hard to find somewhere that's big enough but not too big for the likely crowd size that expected. Before you ask I haven't any ideas!
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Post by irf on Jul 23, 2022 15:26:41 GMT
Has having final in Birmingham every year helped grow basketball or the appetite for basketball there?
I don't know?
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Post by spacejammer on Jul 23, 2022 15:33:47 GMT
Have you any specific venues in mind in those cities? It would be good to spread things around more, but it can be a pain to go up to Glasgow ( except when you win of course) every time but it must hard to find somewhere that's big enough but not too big for the likely crowd size that expected. Before you ask I haven't any ideas! I mean theirs plenty of arenas around the UK you could use to host a BBL competition for a one off event of avaliable. You could even look at putting a final on in Northern Ireland although it maybe more expensive for team fans to travel across. |
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Post by bullets92 on Jul 23, 2022 15:55:43 GMT
Has having final in Birmingham every year helped grow basketball or the appetite for basketball there? I don't know? The appetite for basketball in Brum is massive anyway, we just need a team š¤£ I like the idea, but don't see why the BBL would do move it as it always seems to sell well at the 02 |
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Post by ScottishBasketballFan on Jul 23, 2022 16:04:21 GMT
Has having final in Birmingham every year helped grow basketball or the appetite for basketball there? I don't know? I know they didn't play in the city centre but the Knights were an embarrassment. There was talk a while back of a team from Brum coming in, but I'd suggest the team have a list of key infrastructures such as the financial stability and venue in place, then have a 5-10 year business plan, if the terms of the plan get broken then the league would have the right to terminate their membership |
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Post by spacejammer on Jul 23, 2022 16:18:02 GMT
Has having final in Birmingham every year helped grow basketball or the appetite for basketball there? I don't know? I know they didn't play in the city centre but the Knights were an embarrassment. There was talk a while back of a team from Brum coming in, but I'd suggest the team have a list of key infrastructures such as the financial stability and venue in place, then have a 5-10 year business plan, if the terms of the plan get broken then the league would have the right to terminate their membership Birmingham is an interesting one and so far the only BBL final location to not have a BBL team as well. They have had 3 in the past all which have folded with the most recent Knights being a mixture of poor results and bad ownership. I believe they went with the "we build it and they will come" which as established BBL teams will say does not happen unless you put in the extra work in the community in order to get fans through the door. The guy they had on BBL show this past season talking about a Birmingham franchise sounded keen but in my opinion was a little over ambitious. Although with a BBL final as well as the 3 v 3 Commonwealth games I would have expected more promoting of a new franchise through these events. Although back on topic if you were to try and stage finals in more non BBL cities/towns alongside the Sky Sports coverage. Would it possibly help promote the league in other areas of the country? After all theirs of a lot of room and empty gaps in UK regions without a BBL team. |
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Post by ScottishBasketballFan on Jul 23, 2022 16:22:31 GMT
Edinburgh wouldn't work, they don't really have a suitable venue.
Nottingham has ice hockey from August till April
What about Sheffield or Leeds?
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Post by dexter on Jul 23, 2022 20:23:47 GMT
Edinburgh wouldn't work, they don't really have a suitable venue. Nottingham has ice hockey from August till April What about Sheffield or Leeds? Sheffield, Nottingham, Leeds, Manchester and Liverpool all have suitable large arenas. I would definitely leave the playoffs final where it is at the O2 but moving one of the other finals around is a good idea. |
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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan2 on Jul 23, 2022 20:54:43 GMT
Edinburgh wouldn't work, they don't really have a suitable venue. Nottingham has ice hockey from August till April What about Sheffield or Leeds? I think Sheffield have been trying for years to get a suitable venue for them to play in with a large crowd. Now there seems to be a chance of additional arena could they fill it? Looking at last season's games on the BBLplayer there looked to be plenty of empty seats. |
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Post by mitch21 on Jul 23, 2022 20:58:37 GMT
Remember years ago, who ever won the trophy final got to host the next seasons final.
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Post by spacejammer on Jul 23, 2022 21:11:52 GMT
Edinburgh wouldn't work, they don't really have a suitable venue. Nottingham has ice hockey from August till April What about Sheffield or Leeds? Even if not Edinburgh, what about Aberdeen and Dundee for other Scotland locations. To be honest the only places in Scotland I have been to are Glasgow and Edinburgh but if you were looking for another Scotland franchise Aberdeen in the far North could be idea if their is suitable spot. |
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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan2 on Jul 23, 2022 21:17:53 GMT
Edinburgh wouldn't work, they don't really have a suitable venue. Nottingham has ice hockey from August till April What about Sheffield or Leeds? Even if not Edinburgh, what about Aberdeen and Dundee for other Scotland locations. To be honest the only places in Scotland I have been to are Glasgow and Edinburgh but if you were looking for another Scotland franchise Aberdeen in the far North could be idea if their is suitable spot. Aberdeen? A lovely place but how many Scorchers or Patriots fans would travel there? |
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Post by dexter on Jul 23, 2022 21:28:47 GMT
Even if not Edinburgh, what about Aberdeen and Dundee for other Scotland locations. To be honest the only places in Scotland I have been to are Glasgow and Edinburgh but if you were looking for another Scotland franchise Aberdeen in the far North could be idea if their is suitable spot. Aberdeen? A lovely place but how many Scorchers or Patriots fans would travel there? If Aberdeen want a BBL team they should start by entering a team into the Scottish Basketball Championship division 2 and build up from there. |
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Post by spacejammer on Jul 23, 2022 22:27:39 GMT
Even if not Edinburgh, what about Aberdeen and Dundee for other Scotland locations. To be honest the only places in Scotland I have been to are Glasgow and Edinburgh but if you were looking for another Scotland franchise Aberdeen in the far North could be idea if their is suitable spot. Aberdeen? A lovely place but how many Scorchers or Patriots fans would travel there? True but that it sort of my point why the Sky Sports coverage will be most beneficial to cities and towns with a BBL club but not so much in places with no BBL team. Like if you never heard of the BBL and lived in Bristol and caught a game between Flyers and Sharks on TV. You might watch it, like it and then look the team up for their next home match. And then watch them play the next match against Scorchers at the Wise arena the following week and bring your family or friends along to. Whereas if your living in Aberdeen and see the Rocks on TV you might enjoy it. But your unlikely to travel 2.5 hours to Glasgow for the next game. Whilst if a team one day has a final in their city it may do nothing or it could generate some talk to say "hang on a moment why don't we have a team in the league as well?" |
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Post by dexter on Jul 23, 2022 22:41:00 GMT
All of the Scottish Basketball Championship division 1 teams are in the Central Belt, from Paisley to Edinburgh.
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Post by dandayr on Jul 23, 2022 22:49:49 GMT
Aberdeen? A lovely place but how many Scorchers or Patriots fans would travel there? If Aberdeen want a BBL team they should start by entering a team into the Scottish Basketball Championship division 2 and build up from there. Aberdeen have a SBC D2 side in season 2022/23 - Grampian Flyers are in it. As to the original posters idea of moving finals around other cities - the football champions league was used as an example of that. However they only move to places where football is already big, they don't go and drop the final in some random city without a team in its sport as seems to be getting hinted here basketball should try. Late 2023 or early 2024 Manchester will have a new arena to challenge and pass the O2 - however they have previously set their stall out that not looking to have an anchor sport team like a basketball side as that gets in the way of the concerts and other big one off events - like they are looking to bring NBA games to it. |
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Post by spacejammer on Jul 24, 2022 7:23:54 GMT
If Aberdeen want a BBL team they should start by entering a team into the Scottish Basketball Championship division 2 and build up from there. AberdeenĀ have a SBC D2 side in season 2022/23 - Grampian Flyers are in it. As to the original posters idea of moving finals around other cities - the football champions league was used as an example of that. However they only move to places where football is already big, they don't go and drop the final in some random city without a team in its sport as seems to be getting hinted here basketball should try. Late 2023 or early 2024 Manchester will have a new arena to challenge and pass the O2 - however they have previously set their stall out that not looking to have an anchor sport team like a basketball side as that gets in the way of the concerts and other big one off events - like they are looking to bring NBA games to it. Manchester building an arena sounds good, although I didn't think the NBA was coming back sadly as I thought they were more focused on France now. Although I would welcome it. Your statement on the football is true though and I didn't think of that. I remember a few years ago Chelsea and Arsenal played the Europa final in the middle East and it was so poorly attended they started letting members of public in for free out of embarrassment having so many empty seats. Question is if you did move a final which one would you move? Birmingham, Glasgow and London are all basketball strongholds and geographically well spread out. Unless they made another competition it would be hard to take a final away from any of those cities. |
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Post by dexter on Jul 24, 2022 8:00:34 GMT
AberdeenĀ have a SBC D2 side in season 2022/23 - Grampian Flyers are in it. As to the original posters idea of moving finals around other cities - the football champions league was used as an example of that. However they only move to places where football is already big, they don't go and drop the final in some random city without a team in its sport as seems to be getting hinted here basketball should try. Late 2023 or early 2024 Manchester will have a new arena to challenge and pass the O2 - however they have previously set their stall out that not looking to have an anchor sport team like a basketball side as that gets in the way of the concerts and other big one off events - like they are looking to bring NBA games to it. Manchester building an arena sounds good, although I didn't think the NBA was coming back sadly as I thought they were more focused on France now. Although I would welcome it. Your statement on the football is true though and I didn't think of that. I remember a few years ago Chelsea and Arsenal played the Europa final in the middle East and it was so poorly attended they started letting members of public in for free out of embarrassment having so many empty seats. Question is if you did move a final which one would you move? Birmingham, Glasgow and London are all basketball strongholds and geographically well spread out. Unless they made another competition it would be hard to take a final away from any of those cities. That is the issue. I wouldn't want to take any of the finals away from those cities, and we can't have a fourth final; that would be ridiculous. That is why I would prefer a Magic Weekend. All ten teams in one city. Maybe 3 games on Saturday and 2 on Sunday. Maybe have one of the games on the Friday. It might not draw huge crowds though. Might have to start somewhere smaller like Worcester and build it up over a few years to bigger venues. |
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Post by spacejammer on Jul 24, 2022 9:41:57 GMT
Manchester building an arena sounds good, although I didn't think the NBA was coming back sadly as I thought they were more focused on France now. Although I would welcome it. Your statement on the football is true though and I didn't think of that. I remember a few years ago Chelsea and Arsenal played the Europa final in the middle East and it was so poorly attended they started letting members of public in for free out of embarrassment having so many empty seats. Question is if you did move a final which one would you move? Birmingham, Glasgow and London are all basketball strongholds and geographically well spread out. Unless they made another competition it would be hard to take a final away from any of those cities. That is the issue. I wouldn't want to take any of the finals away from those cities, and we can't have a fourth final; that would be ridiculous. That is why I would prefer a Magic Weekend. All ten teams in one city. Maybe 3 games on Saturday and 2 on Sunday. Maybe have one of the games on the Friday. It might not draw huge crowds though. Might have to start somewhere smaller like Worcester and build it up over a few years to bigger venues. I do like that idea, it would be even better if they can get Sky behind it as well. Would be similar to the May Madness playoffs idea and a great way to grow the sport and league in other areas of the country as well as excitement for the teams and players involved. Plus with 4 championship games a season between each team I suppose each team could give up one game a season and it would do little harm. |
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