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Post by LTfan on Jan 20, 2022 12:24:19 GMT
No real shock in this really maybe the issue of timing. This lions team maybe arent as good individually as last season and a better coach is needed to get it to work. Leicester are miles ahead The shock for me is he's left completely. I could have foreseen him being put in a director of basketball type role or something else back room (or front office, theres a lot of places isnt there....) related - but for him to step aside completely is a real shocker for me, Lions is basically his life work after all. Sam Neter made a great point on twitter though - his departing statement makes reference to it not being the end. This new investment was put in with the intention of 4 new franchises. Is there anyone better to get one off the ground the way hes grafted with Lions over the years? I always said the BBL would never return to Liverpool barring a huge outside influence coming in and making it happen. Well, Vince is a scouser and one hell of an influence. Could it happen? Who knows... I totally agree, as I've already said. I'm not sure about him establishing a new franchise, but I can see him being in some senior management role at the BBL itself. Remember, it's 777 Partners behind both Lions and the BBL now, so there might be a 'bigger picture' plan in the works here. Whilst they might not rate him as a coach, that's not to say they don't acknowledge the experience and knowledge he has of British basketball. This all sounds quite amicable, so we might not be seeing the full picture just yet. That's my hope anyway. |
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Post by erj14 on Jan 20, 2022 15:33:00 GMT
Sad to hear this news. He is synonymous with Lions. Concerned that 777 won't stick around the way Vince has for Lions. And maybe the circle will begin again, with Vince buying back the Lions when 777 abandon ship.  I laugh, but I wouldn't bet my house against it.  Feel slightly uneasy about that group being in full control now. They haven't exactly covered themselves in glory over their early involvement with the sport. I still would prefer to see the slow burn, organic growth that we've seen elsewhere in the league with Riders and Eagles. Investment companies will almost certainly not have the best interests of British basketball at heart. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2022 18:36:41 GMT
What was wrong early on?
All I saw was some guy badmouthing them on the other forum
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Post by LTfan on Jan 21, 2022 9:08:31 GMT
What was wrong early on? All I saw was some guy badmouthing them on the other forum I'm still not sure most fans are on board with the way 777 Partners are running things. I know I'm not. Still absolutely no merchandise, despite being promised it 'soon' for almost 2 years now. £28 per ticket, not exactly enticing newcomers. Although improved, their marketing is poor - inconsistent in general, often with wrong dates and times for games (for example - the Sky game on 4th Feb is Lions v Riders according to everyone - the BBL, Sky, Riders... except Lions themselves who seem to think it's against Cheshire - and not even Cheshire think it is). Etc. Etc. For the millions of pounds involved, it doesn't look very professional most of the time. |
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Post by almachizzit on Jan 21, 2022 11:27:27 GMT
What was wrong early on? All I saw was some guy badmouthing them on the other forum I'm still not sure most fans are on board with the way 777 Partners are running things. I know I'm not. Still absolutely no merchandise, despite being promised it 'soon' for almost 2 years now. £28 per ticket, not exactly enticing newcomers. Although improved, their marketing is poor - inconsistent in general, often with wrong dates and times for games (for example - the Sky game on 4th Feb is Lions v Riders according to everyone - the BBL, Sky, Riders... except Lions themselves who seem to think it's against Cheshire - and not even Cheshire think it is). Etc. Etc. For the millions of pounds involved, it doesn't look very professional most of the time. It’s a bad day when an owner can make Duncan Disorderly look like he knows what he’s doing. |
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Post by massiveridersfan on Jan 21, 2022 18:12:52 GMT
And maybe the circle will begin again, with Vince buying back the Lions when 777 abandon ship. I laugh, but I wouldn't bet my house against it. Feel slightly uneasy about that group being in full control now. They haven't exactly covered themselves in glory over their early involvement with the sport. I still would prefer to see the slow burn, organic growth that we've seen elsewhere in the league with Riders and Eagles. Investment companies will almost certainly not have the best interests of British basketball at heart. Totally agree with you. |
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Post by retsek on Jan 22, 2022 11:25:09 GMT
I'm shocked. Not that it's happened, but that it's happened mid-season. When Vince sold London Lions to 777 Partners he said he'd remain with the organisation in two roles - Head Coach and Head of Basketball. Today's announcement, and the comments from Vince himself, sound like he's not only leaving the Head Coach role but the London Lions organisation altogether. So I'm guessing that perhaps the Head of Basketball role ceased with the introduction of the new GM this season. If that's correct, I'd go as far as to say it's a travesty for the London Lions. I've said before I wasn't convinced the Head Coach role was right for Vince, saying at the time that they'd have been better making him the GM and recruiting a new Head Coach. They got things the wrong way round in my opinion. Vince knows British basketball like very few others. And he probably knows London basketball like no other. He's an extremely valuable asset, maybe not as Head Coach, but an extremely valuable asset none the less. If he's completely left the London Lions organisation then this is a huge mistake. I have to say that was the impression that I got too, he sounded very resigned to the fact and pretty final about it too. I just can't see him ever stepping away though, London's version of Mike Burton |
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Post by spacejammer on Jan 22, 2022 12:34:57 GMT
I'm shocked. Not that it's happened, but that it's happened mid-season. When Vince sold London Lions to 777 Partners he said he'd remain with the organisation in two roles - Head Coach and Head of Basketball. Today's announcement, and the comments from Vince himself, sound like he's not only leaving the Head Coach role but the London Lions organisation altogether. So I'm guessing that perhaps the Head of Basketball role ceased with the introduction of the new GM this season. If that's correct, I'd go as far as to say it's a travesty for the London Lions. I've said before I wasn't convinced the Head Coach role was right for Vince, saying at the time that they'd have been better making him the GM and recruiting a new Head Coach. They got things the wrong way round in my opinion. Vince knows British basketball like very few others. And he probably knows London basketball like no other. He's an extremely valuable asset, maybe not as Head Coach, but an extremely valuable asset none the less. If he's completely left the London Lions organisation then this is a huge mistake. I have to say that was the impression that I got too, he sounded very resigned to the fact and pretty final about it too. I just can't see him ever stepping away though, London's version of Mike Burton To be honest if he doesn't stick with the Lions I would like to see Vince get a job within the BBL itself or GB basketball possibly? Just watched the Sharks V Flyers back on Sky where they said they were shocked but referred to him as a basketball lifer. The only thing I think for certain is this ain't the last we will have seen on Vince. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2022 12:51:27 GMT
The thing I liked about Vince the most was his suits. I hope he isn't out of the spotlight for too long.
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Post by dandayr on Jan 22, 2022 18:17:43 GMT
The thing I liked about Vince the most was his suits. I hope he isn't out of the spotlight for too long. I put his suits at no2 - what I liked most was his vision and persuasion bringing Justin Robinson to his franchise at a time few expected a brit still at his top game to appear in the BBL. Its not worked out for them all (with a couple of club instabilities) but the last few years it has been great to see an increase in GB players in BBL when they could have been out the country. It takes one to show their is potential and then others think I might give that a go as well. Talking up the game in Britain, ambassadorial approach to interviews in the way he responds to adversity and losses in same positive manner he responds to wins. That's what I like about the Vince we the public see. Hope whether BBL, NBL or grassroots he finds a place to keep his passion going and his knowledge being used. |
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Post by LTfan on Jan 30, 2022 13:07:10 GMT
Great to see Vince sitting courtside at the Cup finals in Birmingham today supporting the WBBL London Lions.
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Post by LTfan on Jan 30, 2022 17:43:29 GMT
Vince also just have an interview to Sky Sports after the game too. I noticed he was wearing a VIP guest lanyard, so I’d say there’s still hope in seeing him in a BBL role in the future.
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Post by irf on Feb 18, 2022 10:45:17 GMT
So what's he going to do next?
Must be a role for him somewhere?
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Post by LTfan on Feb 18, 2022 15:17:31 GMT
So what's he going to do next? Must be a role for him somewhere? Nothing until next season at the earliest according to the man himself. Personally, I'm thinking some kind of role within the BBL itself (i.e. not affiliated to an individual team). |
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Post by irf on Feb 18, 2022 17:16:44 GMT
So what's he going to do next? Must be a role for him somewhere? Nothing until next season at the earliest according to the man himself. Personally, I'm thinking some kind of role within the BBL itself (i.e. not affiliated to an individual team). Can they afford him? |
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Post by LTfan on Feb 18, 2022 19:46:34 GMT
Nothing until next season at the earliest according to the man himself. Personally, I'm thinking some kind of role within the BBL itself (i.e. not affiliated to an individual team). Can they afford him? With his history in, and his knowledge of, British basketball there are certainly worse ways to spend some of the new investment cash. |
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Post by stepback3 on Feb 18, 2022 22:57:53 GMT
At best id guess vince is involved with a new club. He wont be used centrally other than an ambassador.
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Post by any1butlester on Feb 19, 2022 13:35:34 GMT
Vince would be assume in a league wide role - if he could bring the same drive and determination to growing the league that he brought to just making Lions survive then with the right backing 💲💲💲💲💲 and support I’m sure he could work wonders
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Post by spacejammer on Feb 19, 2022 15:39:37 GMT
At best id guess vince is involved with a new club. He wont be used centrally other than an ambassador. Could it be Birmingham by any chance? If the Birmingham plan is as big as the guy at the head was making it to be it wouldn't suprise me if they got someone like Vince involved. |
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Post by milehigh on Feb 19, 2022 15:45:17 GMT
The Birmingham project has plenty of good people already involved, I'm not sure Vince would actually add anything they don't have already.
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