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Post by spacejammer on May 18, 2022 17:19:35 GMT
I would disagree cheap or not I think Steutel is an excellent appointment and to have the GB (acting) head coach now coaching in the BBL is a huge bonus for the league especially if the GB home games stay in Newcastle.
And as we have seen with the likes on London money doesn't necessarily buy you the league.
Even if we don't win next season if we finish at least top 5 and are competitive then I would be happy and consider it progress.
Plus one thing I believe Marc will not allow is any slacking next season.
Going back to our 3 games against Riders this past season not only did we lose, we didn't even run with the dogs.
And by the last game we were so bad Leicester were literally letting us shoot.
Not only that on that final game I watched both teams body language and despite being down massively I saw laughing amongst some of the Eagles team that day.
If any team should have been laughing it should have been Leicester running away with it.
Not the team getting destroyed by 20-30 points!
The Leicester team that day also looked generally bored as well we were that bad.
It was at the game I realised it was time for a change in leadership.
And I look forward to seeing the coaching battles Marc will have with Rob and Andres.
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Post by irf on May 18, 2022 17:35:47 GMT
I would disagree cheap or not I think Steutel is an excellent appointment and to have the GB (acting) head coach now coaching in the BBL is a huge bonus for the league especially if the GB home games stay in Newcastle. And as we have seen with the likes on London money doesn't necessarily buy you the league. Even if we don't win next season if we finish at least top 5 and are competitive then I would be happy and consider it progress. Plus one thing I believe Marc will not allow is any slacking next season. Going back to our 3 games against Riders this past season not only did we lose, we didn't even run with the dogs. And by the last game we were so bad Leicester were literally letting us shoot. Not only that on that final game I watched both teams body language and despite being down massively I saw laughing amongst some of the Eagles team that day. If any team should have been laughing it should have been Leicester running away with it. Not the team getting destroyed by 20-30 points! The Leicester team that day also looked generally bored as well we were that bad. It was at the game I realised it was time for a change in leadership. And I look forward to seeing the coaching battles Marc will have with Rob and Andres. With the advantages your fanbase gives you Top 3 every season should be a given with a decent coach And you should seriously be challenging for the League title every season IMO Saying you would be happy with Top 5 next season is seriously undervaluing where you should be IMO But if that's good enough for you then fair enough No disrespect intended Top 3 should be target next season IMO Behind Riders and Lions fair enough |
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Post by mac on May 18, 2022 19:06:40 GMT
Easy appointment, yes. He's family and has a good CV and track record. Cheap? That's just idle speculation, you could not possibly know. What I do know is that Paul Blake is no cheapskate. As for recruitment there is plenty of help available for that, I have no concerns.
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Post by irf on May 18, 2022 19:19:52 GMT
Easy appointment, yes. He's family and has a good CV and track record. Cheap? That's just idle speculation, you could not possibly know. What I do know is that Paul Blake is no cheapskate. As for recruitment there is plenty of help available for that, I have no concerns. That recruitment help has shown itself seriously wanting for years though Newby with his own contacts etc would have added new ideas to the mix IMO |
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Post by tallerman on May 18, 2022 19:42:06 GMT
I think you're missing massively how qualified he is for the role perhaps.
Leading GB to eurobasket and now the 2nd round of the world Cup is far greater than any current bbl Coach has achieved.
I for one think hell out Coach a lot next year, he definitely has a long, hard year ahead but he'll be top 3
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Post by mac on May 18, 2022 19:59:50 GMT
Easy appointment, yes. He's family and has a good CV and track record. Cheap? That's just idle speculation, you could not possibly know. What I do know is that Paul Blake is no cheapskate. As for recruitment there is plenty of help available for that, I have no concerns. That recruitment help has shown itself seriously wanting for years though Newby with his own contacts etc would have added new ideas to the mix IMO Nothing wrong with recruitment this year, I was excited at first. V Lions we showed what we could do. I cannot explain what went wrong. |
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Post by irf on May 18, 2022 20:11:44 GMT
That recruitment help has shown itself seriously wanting for years though Newby with his own contacts etc would have added new ideas to the mix IMO Nothing wrong with recruitment this year, I was excited at first. V Lions we showed what we could do. I cannot explain what went wrong. Nowhere near deep enough as a squad Weak from the bench Unable to cope with injuries Over reliant on Defoe and Fletch who invariably have to play more minutes than they should Same as all the recent years since you last won the league I would suggest You've been left behind in that respect Dropped further down the league year on year As other teams built deeper squads This is honest opinion. Not having a go for the sake of it Surely that's pretty obvious to see? |
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Post by mac on May 18, 2022 20:25:25 GMT
No I don't agree. Even considering everything that went on we underperformed even more. There was something else that we don't know about and probably never will.
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Post by irf on May 18, 2022 20:52:49 GMT
No I don't agree. Even considering everything that went on we underperformed even more. There was something else that we don't know about and probably never will. Ok Well with a better coach and the same squad next season you could battle for third I think Will be closer to Riders if we enter Europe as we will lose more matches in BBL The reason I say third is I feel Riders would still be too deep for your squad to compete with in the league And I'm expecting far better from Lions next season They are capable of competing with us for the league with same squad and a better coach I think that's fair You should be competing for Top 3 for sure I'm glad you aren't thinking Top 5 would be good enough for a club of your stature |
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Post by erj14 on May 18, 2022 21:06:28 GMT
Eagles should be top 3 minimum. The fact they finished ninth last year was an embarrassment. The recruitment was all wrong, perhaps not from a talent point of view but they didn't fit together and there were far too many players happy to throw in the towel when things didn't go right. It wasn't just playing Leicester where they did that, it was pretty much every team they played bar Glasgow and Surrey.
Sheffield finished second and they must have about 500 fans turn up to their games in a glorified leisure centre. No way should Eagles be aiming for finishing below teams of that ilk.
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Post by spacejammer on May 18, 2022 21:43:28 GMT
I would disagree cheap or not I think Steutel is an excellent appointment and to have the GB (acting) head coach now coaching in the BBL is a huge bonus for the league especially if the GB home games stay in Newcastle. And as we have seen with the likes on London money doesn't necessarily buy you the league. Even if we don't win next season if we finish at least top 5 and are competitive then I would be happy and consider it progress. Plus one thing I believe Marc will not allow is any slacking next season. Going back to our 3 games against Riders this past season not only did we lose, we didn't even run with the dogs. And by the last game we were so bad Leicester were literally letting us shoot. Not only that on that final game I watched both teams body language and despite being down massively I saw laughing amongst some of the Eagles team that day. If any team should have been laughing it should have been Leicester running away with it. Not the team getting destroyed by 20-30 points! The Leicester team that day also looked generally bored as well we were that bad. It was at the game I realised it was time for a change in leadership. And I look forward to seeing the coaching battles Marc will have with Rob and Andres. With the advantages your fanbase gives you Top 3 every season should be a given with a decent coach And you should seriously be challenging for the League title every season IMO Saying you would be happy with Top 5 next season is seriously undervaluing where you should be IMO But if that's good enough for you then fair enough No disrespect intended Top 3 should be target next season IMO Behind Riders and Lions fair enough Okay to add on to that when I said top 5 I would say top 5 for next season with the hunger and look that we will one day be champions again in the future. And I'm also respecting the fact alot of teams in the BBL have up'd there game now especially this past season. To me with Macleod whilst I credit for lasting 3 years and winning us all the other trophies. This past season looking at what he had to work with it became apparent we were not going to win a championship under him. And our placings had gone from... 2019/20-Joint 5th in an unfinished season. 2020/21-4th 2021/22-9th. That to me showed we were going backwards in the championship. Yes Steutel might do well and maybe he might not but I think whoever takes over this is always going to be the case. I mean unless you can get someone like Frank Vogel is currently out of work since being sacked by LA Lakers. I'm willing to take a punt on Steutel atleast taking us forward. |
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Post by mac on May 19, 2022 9:37:13 GMT
No I don't agree. Even considering everything that went on we underperformed even more. There was something else that we don't know about and probably never will. Ok Well with a better coach and the same squad next season you could battle for third I think Will be closer to Riders if we enter Europe as we will lose more matches in BBL The reason I say third is I feel Riders would still be too deep for your squad to compete with in the league And I'm expecting far better from Lions next season They are capable of competing with us for the league with same squad and a better coach I think that's fair You should be competing for Top 3 for sure I'm glad you aren't thinking Top 5 would be good enough for a club of your stature I'm expecting great things from Lions next season. I'm sure I read somewhere they are talking NCAA level coaching team. If they pull that off and recruit accordingly they will take some stopping. I'm also quite excited for Sharks. The three year deal for Glasgow Jr is some statement. For us, I don't mind being beaten by a better team as long as my team leaves nothing on the floor. It's going to be some ride! |
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Post by tony on Jun 9, 2022 10:35:59 GMT
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Post by mac on Jun 9, 2022 14:21:34 GMT
That's a good read, thanks for that Tony 👍
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Post by irf on Jun 9, 2022 15:05:28 GMT
If I were an Eagles fan Reading that would make me confident he's a good appointment He's saying all the things I would want to hear And he's setting strong expectations from the start Good start from Steutel IMO |
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Post by massiveridersfan on Jun 9, 2022 23:05:03 GMT
Pretty certain Eagles will shoot back up the league and will have a team they can be proud to support because they'll give 100%. Lasker has always repeated the mantra that hard work and effort should be taken for granted and not an option for players. It's the least fans ought to expect. Talent and gelling as a team are the harder aspects to manage. Already looking forward to seeing what they do in terms of recruitment and performances.
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Post by tallerman on Jun 10, 2022 6:15:52 GMT
Looking at coaches, outside of steutal and Gardner who's the next greqy British coach out there?
Nice to see British coaches in the role over here and not just ex players
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Post by irf on Oct 15, 2022 10:36:42 GMT
Recruitment of a deeper younger squad is what's needed for Eagles to compete for the league Assuming finances allow it of course Without that it makes no difference how good a coach he turns out to be at BBL level or not As I suggested - if you don't recruit well makes no difference who the coach is But it's looking like another really long and disappointing season ahead for Eagles? Can Steutel turn things round Eagles fans? Looks doubtful IMO Not a lot to work with. But surely he's involved in recruitment and its not done for him? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2022 10:44:16 GMT
It really does just seem like an absolute disaster, releasing as many players as they did so close to the start of the season was always going to be problematic, but they just don’t seem to have done a good job at replacing them either, I think whoever said That it doesn’t matter what the coach does in the training sessions if the squad is built as bad as it is was spot on, I really just cannot fathom how they’ve got to this point, I’m sure he will be given plenty of time to sort things out but at the same time they really need to show some improvement soon
Looking at their roster I’m not sure they have a single player who I would really be happy having as my starter if I was aiming for finishing second or third in the league
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Post by irf on Oct 15, 2022 10:50:50 GMT
It really does just seem like an absolute disaster, releasing as many players as they did so close to the start of the season was always going to be problematic, but they just don’t seem to have done a good job at replacing them either, I think whoever said That it doesn’t matter what the coach does in the training sessions if the squad is built as bad as it is was spot on, I really just cannot fathom how they’ve got to this point, I’m sure he will be given plenty of time to sort things out but at the same time they really need to show some improvement soon Looking at their roster I’m not sure they have a single player who I would really be happy having as my starter if I was aiming for finishing second or third in the league Right now Eagles look like a team that will struggle to make playoffs Top 3 not the remotest possibility So far away from where they should be Eagles owner needs to take a long hard look at both himself and how they recruit The club remains broken on the court All the positive words from owner and Steutel before the season seem hollow words already Every season they recognise they need to recruit better Yet another season they fail to do so? |
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