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Post by dandayr on Apr 6, 2022 18:14:08 GMT
If not already on iplayer watching or there in largs - the qualifiers for commonweatlh games are live on iplayer right now as well as the bbcsport website Scotland, Wales and Norther Ireland competing to see who joins England in Birmingham in both the Men and Women comps. BBL and WBBL well represented in the teams playing link to the website version www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/scotland/60995400 |
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Post by dandayr on Apr 7, 2022 12:19:18 GMT
big gulf in the squads that played - each time once Scotland got their momentum going, the others just fell away
So in both Men and Women commonwealth games 3x3 the final spot is won by Scotland joining the other 7 already confirmed in each of SM and SW comps in Birmingham
I guess when my wife walked in the room and said - why this and not 5v5, it just looks like going up the street to watch the people at the local hoop in the school beside us.
That's probably exactly why this format is being pushed by so many.
Personally, still not convinced by it.
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Post by LTfan on Apr 7, 2022 12:39:43 GMT
I don't mind 3v3 as an 'entry level drug' into basketball, much like the British Basketball All Stars Championship, but I don't like the idea of it replacing 'actual' basketball. Which it basically has in the Commonwealth Games.
By the way, I know there's an argument that it hasn't replaced 'actual' basketball Commonwealth Games, as the likely alternative was probably no basketball at all in the Commonwealth Games.
Having said that, I probably would have made a trip to Birmingham to watch a few games during the Commonwealth Games if it wasn't for the fact it clashes with the London Formula E weekend in July.
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Post by Solly on Apr 7, 2022 16:40:08 GMT
Having said that, I probably would have made a trip to Birmingham to watch a few games during the Commonwealth Games if it wasn't for the fact it clashes with the London Formula E weekend in July. LTfan - you'd have been lucky to get tickets, despite this being a poor substitute for the proper game. I'm one of the mug West Midlands council tax payers who is getting stiffed for the next twenty years paying for the whole ridiculous shambolic drain on the public finances that is the gravy train of the Commonwealth Games and I wouldn't be able to get a ticket even I wanted to attend, which I don't. Just as for the Olympics, there will reams of empty seats reserved for the reams of freeloaders who won't even be arsed to turn up. Birmingham councillors are crowing about how wonderful it is to be hosting the fiasco. There were no other chumps willing to throw gazillions at it. All too easy to throw away someone else's hard-earned. Utter utter kerrap! |
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Post by SamH on Apr 7, 2022 19:41:02 GMT
It's a different game, like Test 20 cricket is different to normal cricket, or pool is different to snooker, or soft tip darts is different to steel tip, or every single different style of swimming is different to one another. Fine to have both but not one at the expense of the other.
Of course if you've ever played 3 on 3 (or 2 on 2) half court, you know how knackering it is. I find full court far easier. Half court, there's no let up and you are constantly changing direction, it soon takes its toll on the less fit (me).
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Post by LTfan on Apr 7, 2022 19:59:41 GMT
Having said that, I probably would have made a trip to Birmingham to watch a few games during the Commonwealth Games if it wasn't for the fact it clashes with the London Formula E weekend in July. LTfan - you'd have been lucky to get tickets, despite this being a poor substitute for the proper game. I'm one of the mug West Midlands council tax payers who is getting stiffed for the next twenty years paying for the whole ridiculous shambolic drain on the public finances that is the gravy train of the Commonwealth Games and I wouldn't be able to get a ticket even I wanted to attend, which I don't. Just as for the Olympics, there will reams of empty seats reserved for the reams of freeloaders who won't even be arsed to turn up. Birmingham councillors are crowing about how wonderful it is to be hosting the fiasco. There were no other chumps willing to throw gazillions at it. All too easy to throw away someone else's hard-earned. Utter utter kerrap! Fair point about being able to get tickets, although I would have said the same about the 2012 Olympics and I went to 2 games… including Team GB and the Team USA. Not that I’m bragging or anything.  |
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Post by bullets92 on Apr 7, 2022 20:27:27 GMT
Having said that, I probably would have made a trip to Birmingham to watch a few games during the Commonwealth Games if it wasn't for the fact it clashes with the London Formula E weekend in July. LTfan - you'd have been lucky to get tickets, despite this being a poor substitute for the proper game. I'm one of the mug West Midlands council tax payers who is getting stiffed for the next twenty years paying for the whole ridiculous shambolic drain on the public finances that is the gravy train of the Commonwealth Games and I wouldn't be able to get a ticket even I wanted to attend, which I don't. Just as for the Olympics, there will reams of empty seats reserved for the reams of freeloaders who won't even be arsed to turn up. Birmingham councillors are crowing about how wonderful it is to be hosting the fiasco. There were no other chumps willing to throw gazillions at it. All too easy to throw away someone else's hard-earned. Utter utter kerrap! Think we'll agree to disagree on this one...personally think it's a wonderful showcase for our city! I've also managed to get a range of tickets, basketball final included. |
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Post by dandayr on Apr 7, 2022 22:43:51 GMT
It's a different game, like Test 20 cricket is different to normal cricket, or pool is different to snooker, or soft tip darts is different to steel tip, or every single different style of swimming is different to one another. Fine to have both but not one at the expense of the other. Of course if you've ever played 3 on 3 (or 2 on 2) half court, you know how knackering it is. I find full court far easier. Half court, there's no let up and you are constantly changing direction, it soon takes its toll on the less fit (me). I hear too often it is the future - an opportunity for countries that will never break into the big 8 at the 5v5 game to have the chance to be a top nation at the 3x3 game. So a great opportunity for GB as well as Scotland, Wales, England, NI and for players who sign up for the 3x3 tour. I get that - 3 countries competing meant 12 athletes. In a couple of weeks at the U18 nations comp - 3 countries means 36 athletes. So yep the half court game you don't need to find as many top players to be competitive - but also means you are turning away a lot of people versus the 5v5 version. Both can and should have a place. All good as long as it is all done as a new sport and gets equal billing with the 5v5 game and doesnot get used to push it aside when it comes to governing body support and investment. |
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Post by SamH on Apr 8, 2022 9:49:31 GMT
Yes and that also goes to show that it is a very different game - otherwise the same old elite countries and especially the USA, would be dominant at it just as they are the full game. Not to say if they invested in it and took it seriously they couldn't develop winning programmes, but I don't think they will. Obviously a lot of the skill set required is the same (shooting, passing, defending) but the strategies and coaching must be completely different and in some respects, the basketball IQ of a player could be much stronger or weaker compared to the normal game in line with that.
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Post by Solly on Apr 11, 2022 19:45:27 GMT
bullets92 - "Think we'll agree to disagree on this one...personally think it's a wonderful showcase for our city!"
Yo must be yampy...
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Post by ScottishBasketballFan on Jul 28, 2022 17:09:34 GMT
Interesting difference between the 2 Scotland teams
The men are all based in Scotland playing for the Rocks and the Women bar 1 player are all based in England.
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Post by bullets92 on Jul 29, 2022 20:57:04 GMT
Will someone tell the BBC basketball was played today (and Scotland won!)
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Post by stepback3 on Jul 29, 2022 21:06:56 GMT
It got massively bumped up the order on the bbc sport scotland page just as the girls started playing tonight
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Post by dandayr on Jul 29, 2022 21:22:29 GMT
Will someone tell the BBC basketball was played today (and Scotland won!) I believe they know - as I watched the games live on the BBC! Thought the men were going to blow it in game 1 - but boy did they get their act together in game 2. Just shows that 3X3 is the same as the main 5v5 game. You get some stinkers that you wish you had't watched and you get some real edge of the seat exciting games. The game v Canada was exciting from the last to final minute. Given them self a great chance now of straight to the semi-final and one less game to play. Just wish the commentator would stop saying Malcolm looked like could have a breakout tournament as if he is not an established player already. Missed the womens game 1 defeat but saw the game 2 win ok. Very impressive and given themselves a good chance of getting to the playoff game. Then the wheelchair woman just could not get their rhythm going. Finished the game with more confidence than they started so hopefully will carry that into the next game. Actually though the BBC coverage was good - was able to watch all games live and not rely on clips in the highlights program or the news program. Just a shame they did not cut to the post game interviews that the crowd got but we the tv viewer did not. |
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Post by bullets92 on Jul 30, 2022 5:40:33 GMT
Know it was shown live but there is hardly any mention of games even taking place on their homepage.
The live text also refused to even mention the games
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Post by tony on Jul 30, 2022 8:10:47 GMT
Been watching a few games via the red button on the BBC and watched a couple this morning.
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Post by SamH on Jul 30, 2022 9:23:39 GMT
I was watching the wheelchair version yesterday, though I thought the standard was poorer than the full court game.
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Post by ScottishBasketballFan on Jul 30, 2022 10:00:27 GMT
Did the commentary really call us No hopers?
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Post by bullets92 on Jul 30, 2022 17:04:37 GMT
Know it was shown live but there is hardly any mention of games even taking place on their homepage. The live text also refused to even mention the games In the past hour the BBC live text has mentioned Hockey, weightlifting, cycling, cricket and now a netball game not even containing any home nations. All whilst England played twice!! |
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Post by dandayr on Jul 31, 2022 21:55:50 GMT
today was disappointing.
Really enjoyed watching live the Scotland men yesterday with through to the semi-final and the highlights of the women through to the quarter final game.
Today went to watch the England men - and despite Claire saying 3X3 and beach volleyball were both on the live feeds - found neither, so failed to watch the England men.
Ah well - lets see what the coverage is for the quarters, onwards.
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