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Post by spacejammer on Mar 20, 2022 18:19:11 GMT
Well at the beginning of the season I certainly wasn't expecting that nor did I rate Cheshire to win anything this year but looks like they proved me wrong and were the better team today.
Austin Jr well deserved MVP and great game all round from the team who went in as the underdogs.
Might start suggesting the BBL rename this the Underdogs Trophy Final after the results in recent years.
As for London despite the loss I suppose you can joke on and say they now look like a team built for the BBL and not the NBA.
But everything said so far I agree they looked like a team that wasn't a team.
The only thing I disagree with is the game wouldn't have changed without Neighbour or Reese.
If they were in I felt they would have put up more of a fight.
Although now other then the fact they actually got to have a go at Europe this season.
It looks like they can only mimic their record from last season of 1 trophy providing they win the playoffs and 2 runner up positions.
And if they played like they did today it almost makes me hope the Eagles draw them in the playoffs.
I suppose similar to our organisation questions are going to be asked as to what has gone wrong with the Lions this year and can theh bounce back before the end of the season playoffs.
Which is in Lions backyard which should motivate them more surely?
However for now congrats to Cheshire, Coach Ben and the Nix organisation!🏀🏆
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Post by LTfan on Mar 20, 2022 21:01:53 GMT
How bad were Lions?! And how bad was Cheshire's free throw shooting? Nevertheless, they wanted it more and thoroughly deserve their triumph. Congratulations Phoenix. Half of lions team look like they don’t want to be there Just my opinion but to me it looked like only Kaboza and Robinson were really playing for the win. Maybe Williams too, or he’s just that good when on auto pilot. As for everyone else, it just looked like they were going through the motions. |
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Post by irf on Mar 20, 2022 21:33:56 GMT
Betting odds were set before Lions problems no doubt 1/6 Lions 10/3 Phoenix Phoenix must be worth a bet? That was the BBL betting opportunity of the season!! |
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Post by bullets92 on Mar 20, 2022 21:49:36 GMT
Betting odds were set before Lions problems no doubt 1/6 Lions 10/3 Phoenix Phoenix must be worth a bet? That was the BBL betting opportunity of the season!! I had a fiver on it once I saw the team news. Wish I'd done more. Expected Ladbrokes to change the odds once they realised Reese and Neighbour were out but they stayed at 5/2. Which, interestingly, were the same odds for the WBBL game. Shows how much they know (or tbh care!) |
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Post by bigdunk on Mar 20, 2022 21:59:50 GMT
Was Neighbour not the only diffference from the London team that defeated Cheshire in Cheshire last Sunday? For that reason I didn’t have a bet in the game
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Post by bullets92 on Mar 20, 2022 22:05:39 GMT
Was Neighbour not the only diffference from the London team that defeated Cheshire in Cheshire last Sunday? For that reason I didn’t have a bet in the game Think Namon Wright missed it too |
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Post by sonjel on Mar 20, 2022 23:31:35 GMT
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Post by LTfan on Mar 21, 2022 13:14:32 GMT
Well, even as a Lions fan, I've got to say this season will be nothing but a disappointment and underperforming one.
In my opinion Lions needed 2 titles this season to have any creditability. The Cup has gone. As has the Trophy. The League is essentially gone, so at best they'll walk away with the Play-Offs title... and that's obviously far from a given. Yes, there was some success in Europe, but nothing tangible to show for it.
So it'll be one title or no titles, either way - a disappointment and an underperformance.
It's somewhat ironic that Lions most successful season to date (2018/19 - 2 titles) was prior to the new owners and investment.
I know The BBL Show is trying to get Vince on as a guest before the end of the season. I'd love to know his thoughts. Whether he'd be candid or not though is another question as he seems to still be on good terms with both Lions and the BBL.
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Post by dandayr on Mar 21, 2022 13:40:08 GMT
only got home in time to see 2nd half of the BBL Trophy game - defence wins game, passion and desire though are the extra ingredients.
Looked like Cheshire were the only side with all three in that 2nd half. That clear block of travelling fans I am sure must have been a bonus as well for the side seeing such an obvious support standout in a big cavernous space. As some said post game - made it more like home.
Thought Neighbour was a huge loss to Lions - in some other games recently when looked like wheels about to come of in a game, he has come of the bench and hit his trademark three, fought and won rebounds and added a spark when it was needed. No one else seemed capable in that 2nd half of getting a spark and igniting a Lions run.
At least Lions woeful 2nd half means we are not still scratching our heads about that unsportsmanlike call.
Well done Cheshire - I am sure Gareth is like a lot of us north of the border thinking missed opportunity by Rocks in that collapse in the 2nd leg when Cheshire just shut them right out the game.
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Post by mac on Mar 21, 2022 14:30:46 GMT
Just caught up via YouTube and wow. Watching the second half I could have been watching Eagles not Lions. Easy shots missed and turnovers galore equalled 2 points in about 7 minutes in the 4th quarter. This allowed Nix to manage and close out the game with ease. Austin looks like a keeper but I see the BBL report attributes 10 assists to him instead of a more impressive 10 rebounds. Very good value for MVP. Always had a soft spot for Nix so delighted for them, many congratulations.
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Post by irf on Mar 21, 2022 16:25:41 GMT
Well, even as a Lions fan, I've got to say this season will be nothing but a disappointment and underperforming one. In my opinion Lions needed 2 titles this season to have any creditability. The Cup has gone. As has the Trophy. The League is essentially gone, so at best they'll walk away with the Play-Offs title... and that's obviously far from a given. Yes, there was some success in Europe, but nothing tangible to show for it. So it'll be one title or no titles, either way - a disappointment and an underperformance. It's somewhat ironic that Lions most successful season to date (2018/19 - 2 titles) was prior to the new owners and investment. I know The BBL Show is trying to get Vince on as a guest before the end of the season. I'd love to know his thoughts. Whether he'd be candid or not though is another question as he seems to still be on good terms with both Lions and the BBL. Not sure what can happen next few weeks to turn you into playoff winning team tbh? |
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Post by A tall man on Mar 21, 2022 17:51:51 GMT
There's a London Lions team that are undefeated in bbl action this season. One of them balled out on Sunday too. Just get the kids to finish the season
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Post by LTfan on Mar 21, 2022 18:40:33 GMT
Well, even as a Lions fan, I've got to say this season will be nothing but a disappointment and underperforming one. In my opinion Lions needed 2 titles this season to have any creditability. The Cup has gone. As has the Trophy. The League is essentially gone, so at best they'll walk away with the Play-Offs title... and that's obviously far from a given. Yes, there was some success in Europe, but nothing tangible to show for it. So it'll be one title or no titles, either way - a disappointment and an underperformance. It's somewhat ironic that Lions most successful season to date (2018/19 - 2 titles) was prior to the new owners and investment. I know The BBL Show is trying to get Vince on as a guest before the end of the season. I'd love to know his thoughts. Whether he'd be candid or not though is another question as he seems to still be on good terms with both Lions and the BBL. Not sure what can happen next few weeks to turn you into playoff winning team tbh? Blind luck?  But as I said, even if Lions won the Play-Offs this season will still have been a bust in my opinion. It’s too late to be anything but that now. |
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Post by spacejammer on Mar 21, 2022 19:35:25 GMT
There's a London Lions team that are undefeated in bbl action this season. One of them balled out on Sunday too. Just get the kids to finish the season Considering the amount of stick they have been getting and how the BBL Playoffs at in London and at the O2 surely the Lions should be motivated to get there and at least score one trophy in the back. And as far as motivation goes I don't think I have seen a more disinterested team in a final then what I saw yesterday from them. What everyone has said about London is spot on and I think you have to question if 777 know what they are doing with this franchise as I expect their boardroom at the end of the season will look like an episode of Apprentice Your Fired. When you look at the other successful teams in the BBL I think one of the key things missing is the connection to the fans with the Lions. You saw Cheshire with their army of fans yesterday and yet no obvious supporters from London. I suppose I understand with it being in Glasgow its a long way for London fans to go which is why if they make the playoff final they will need to capitalise on this to prove me wrong. However fans are certainly one thing that motivates players to play harder and keep coming back. And getting rid of Vince was probably a mistake as well. I'm starting to think they should have tried to at least give him a place in the franchise that wasn't necessarily a coaching role. Whether he was offered one who knows but if he wasn't then they certainly stabbed in the back one of their greatest club pioneers. At the moment they seem like a team that is all money but not enough soul. |
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Post by stevetino on Mar 21, 2022 22:06:55 GMT
It’s a long way for Cheshire fans to go to also not just London, you wouldn’t be unhappy drawing them in the playoffs now that’s for sure
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Post by massiveridersfan on Mar 21, 2022 22:53:08 GMT
There's a London Lions team that are undefeated in bbl action this season. One of them balled out on Sunday too. Just get the kids to finish the season Considering the amount of stick they have been getting and how the BBL Playoffs at in London and at the O2 surely the Lions should be motivated to get there and at least score one trophy in the back. And as far as motivation goes I don't think I have seen a more disinterested team in a final then what I saw yesterday from them. What everyone has said about London is spot on and I think you have to question if 777 know what they are doing with this franchise as I expect their boardroom at the end of the season will look like an episode of Apprentice Your Fired. When you look at the other successful teams in the BBL I think one of the key things missing is the connection to the fans with the Lions. You saw Cheshire with their army of fans yesterday and yet no obvious supporters from London. I suppose I understand with it being in Glasgow its a long way for London fans to go which is why if they make the playoff final they will need to capitalise on this to prove me wrong. However fans are certainly one thing that motivates players to play harder and keep coming back. And getting rid of Vince was probably a mistake as well. I'm starting to think they should have tried to at least give him a place in the franchise that wasn't necessarily a coaching role. Whether he was offered one who knows but if he wasn't then they certainly stabbed in the back one of their greatest club pioneers. At the moment they seem like a team that is all money but not enough soul. Honestly, I worry that Lions' owners may be here today, gone tomorrow. Just don't convince me they are interested in fans at all. Saintpat has been saying similar for ages. Now HE'S a fan! |
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Post by spacejammer on Mar 21, 2022 23:50:52 GMT
Considering the amount of stick they have been getting and how the BBL Playoffs at in London and at the O2 surely the Lions should be motivated to get there and at least score one trophy in the back. And as far as motivation goes I don't think I have seen a more disinterested team in a final then what I saw yesterday from them. What everyone has said about London is spot on and I think you have to question if 777 know what they are doing with this franchise as I expect their boardroom at the end of the season will look like an episode of Apprentice Your Fired. When you look at the other successful teams in the BBL I think one of the key things missing is the connection to the fans with the Lions. You saw Cheshire with their army of fans yesterday and yet no obvious supporters from London. I suppose I understand with it being in Glasgow its a long way for London fans to go which is why if they make the playoff final they will need to capitalise on this to prove me wrong. However fans are certainly one thing that motivates players to play harder and keep coming back. And getting rid of Vince was probably a mistake as well. I'm starting to think they should have tried to at least give him a place in the franchise that wasn't necessarily a coaching role. Whether he was offered one who knows but if he wasn't then they certainly stabbed in the back one of their greatest club pioneers. At the moment they seem like a team that is all money but not enough soul. Honestly, I worry that Lions' owners may be here today, gone tomorrow. Just don't convince me they are interested in fans at all. Saintpat has been saying similar for ages. Now HE'S a fan! You say that but they have shown intrest in investing in the league so that gives me a sense that they are planning to stick around and have some intrest in the BBL. Which is a financial win for everyone if that is the case. Although in terms of investing and running a franchise it seems like the only thing they know how to do is chuck money around and nothing more. At this point I hope if they have a plan with the Lions then it was more a 5-10 year plan and not a 2-3 year one. And if they keep going with Europe that should in theory make them more consistant better at it. I suppose similar to the Eagles this year its going to be case of how do they bounce back and can they give themselves some hope in the playoffs which is again in the heart of their city and the biggest arena venue in the UK. If that doesn't give them or the players enough motivation to keep fighting then I'd be surprised. At least if they go into next year they will have lasted longer then the London Circus Royals franchise did. |
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Post by isthaturinal on Mar 22, 2022 8:52:59 GMT
Considering the amount of stick they have been getting and how the BBL Playoffs at in London and at the O2 surely the Lions should be motivated to get there and at least score one trophy in the back. And as far as motivation goes I don't think I have seen a more disinterested team in a final then what I saw yesterday from them. What everyone has said about London is spot on and I think you have to question if 777 know what they are doing with this franchise as I expect their boardroom at the end of the season will look like an episode of Apprentice Your Fired. When you look at the other successful teams in the BBL I think one of the key things missing is the connection to the fans with the Lions. You saw Cheshire with their army of fans yesterday and yet no obvious supporters from London. I suppose I understand with it being in Glasgow its a long way for London fans to go which is why if they make the playoff final they will need to capitalise on this to prove me wrong. However fans are certainly one thing that motivates players to play harder and keep coming back. And getting rid of Vince was probably a mistake as well. I'm starting to think they should have tried to at least give him a place in the franchise that wasn't necessarily a coaching role. Whether he was offered one who knows but if he wasn't then they certainly stabbed in the back one of their greatest club pioneers. At the moment they seem like a team that is all money but not enough soul. Honestly, I worry that Lions' owners may be here today, gone tomorrow. Just don't convince me they are interested in fans at all. Saintpat has been saying similar for ages. Now HE'S a fan! I saw no sign of him in Glasgow on Sunday…..Maybe even he’s gave up on them. |
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Post by topcata on Mar 22, 2022 9:27:37 GMT
True that.
I’ve been on and off for past 3 years and can’t even buy a t-shirt for the kids.
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Post by irf on Mar 22, 2022 9:34:38 GMT
Saintpat
@saintpat1962
@londonlions
management seem to be suffering from "too much easy money" syndrome. They're not having to work for their budget,so they don't care about selling merchandise, engaging with, or building the fan base, getting the players & fans on the same side.
10:15 pm · 20 Mar 2022·Twitter
Saintpat
@saintpat1962
It very much reminds me of GB basketball leading up to the 2012 Olympics, so much money they had no focus on creating a brand or generating their own income, just employing a whole search of people who didn't have British Basketballs best interests at heart, only their own!
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Lions coach looked like he'd given up a few minutes ago & that's affected the team dynamic. Very poor all round. Feel sorry for the lions fans who've made the very long journey, at least they got to see a cohesive, energised, passionate, quality team display from the ladies.
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