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Post by LTfan on May 7, 2024 8:35:52 GMT
Be very surprised if Riders were to offer Allen a deal next season. I'd be even more surprised if any other remaining team in the league would offer him a deal either. I've heard Teddy Allen has already signed a contract to return to the Winnipeg Sea Bears in the Canadian Elite Basketball League, where he won CEBL MVP, next season. In fact I've heard he signed that deal 3 months ago now, so was never planning on staying in Leicester or the BBL for very long. |
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Post by eillo23 on May 7, 2024 10:43:48 GMT
Be very surprised if Riders were to offer Allen a deal next season. I'd be even more surprised if any other remaining team in the league would offer him a deal either. I've heard Teddy Allen has already signed a contract to return to the Winnipeg Sea Bears in the Canadian Elite Basketball League, where he won CEBL MVP, next season. In fact I've heard he signed that deal 3 months ago now, so was never planning on staying in Leicester or the BBL for very long. Correct. However the CEBL runs from May-July, with the playoffs being played in August. Its a good destination for players looking to play over the summer. Patrick Whelan played for Niagara last summer. Regardless, I don't see many teams looking at Allen as a good pickup for next season. There are a lot of players in the BBL that I would pick ahead of him as MVP. |
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Post by LTfan on May 7, 2024 11:04:10 GMT
I've heard Teddy Allen has already signed a contract to return to the Winnipeg Sea Bears in the Canadian Elite Basketball League, where he won CEBL MVP, next season. In fact I've heard he signed that deal 3 months ago now, so was never planning on staying in Leicester or the BBL for very long. Correct. However the CEBL runs from May-July, with the playoffs being played in August. Its a good destination for players looking to play over the summer. Patrick Whelan played for Niagara last summer. Regardless, I don't see many teams looking at Allen as a good pickup for next season. There are a lot of players in the BBL that I would pick ahead of him as MVP. Thanks. I forgot the CEBL is essentially a summer league. And I agree, no way is Allen worthy of MVP in the BBL this season. Don't get be wrong, he's a good player, but I think he's somewhat overhyped - especially by the league and their commentators. |
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Post by johnjack on May 7, 2024 13:33:14 GMT
Correct. However the CEBL runs from May-July, with the playoffs being played in August. Its a good destination for players looking to play over the summer. Patrick Whelan played for Niagara last summer. Regardless, I don't see many teams looking at Allen as a good pickup for next season. There are a lot of players in the BBL that I would pick ahead of him as MVP. Thanks. I forgot the CEBL is essentially a summer league. And I agree, no way is Allen worthy of MVP in the BBL this season. Don't get be wrong, he's a good player, but I think he's somewhat overhyped - especially by the league and their commentators. I think both Rai and McKenzie are signed to teams over there as well. As for Allen. He came, made a splash but then got found out pretty quick and teams figured out how to play against him. If he came to a more balanced Leicester team he probably could f had a bigger effect over a longer period. However they became a little one dimensional and predictable. Reading into him, I think he has had quite a sad story through out his career with many issues and problems and poor decisions, not all of which were his. He just needed better people around him overall. |
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Post by notoriousbigz on May 7, 2024 21:13:07 GMT
Correct. However the CEBL runs from May-July, with the playoffs being played in August. Its a good destination for players looking to play over the summer. Patrick Whelan played for Niagara last summer. Regardless, I don't see many teams looking at Allen as a good pickup for next season. There are a lot of players in the BBL that I would pick ahead of him as MVP. Thanks. I forgot the CEBL is essentially a summer league. And I agree, no way is Allen worthy of MVP in the BBL this season. Don't get be wrong, he's a good player, but I think he's somewhat overhyped - especially by the league and their commentators. This us the absolute bottom line. He can create his own shot pretty well, but as a volume shooter I thought he came over here to the one team that wouldn't fit his style (Rob P with a ballhog? Since when?!?!). Not to mention I thought he was a distinctly average defender (again, not Robs style) and I thought he was bang out of shape. Completely overhyped for me. |
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Post by spacejammer on May 7, 2024 21:25:15 GMT
Thanks. I forgot the CEBL is essentially a summer league. And I agree, no way is Allen worthy of MVP in the BBL this season. Don't get be wrong, he's a good player, but I think he's somewhat overhyped - especially by the league and their commentators. This us the absolute bottom line. He can create his own shot pretty well, but as a volume shooter I thought he came over here to the one team that wouldn't fit his style (Rob P with a ballhog? Since when?!?!). Not to mention I thought he was a distinctly average defender (again, not Robs style) and I thought he was bang out of shape. Completely overhyped for me. The question is will Rob rehire him next season and how does he respond after a tough season? If so then would you then also argue it being classed as lazy recruitment? I will give the Riders credit despite us splitting the league meetings they did finish higher then the Eagles this season. Which suprises me considering I felt we had a much stronger squad with no change ups this year so I will give the Riders their flowers there. I suppose how Rob and all other coaches outside Lions respond will depend on how this 777 drama unfolds and the state of the league and what sort of league it will be. If all goes well for both sides I wonder if could be looking at an Eagles vs Riders neck and neck race? With the Eagles having already confirmed they are playing in the ENBL next season I'm expecting us to recruit a dynamic squad next season. Will Rob and the Riders be tempted to follow suit and also consider that path? Before anyone says that's a crazy idea we finished 8th last season after a caterstrophic season decided to do Europe so it wouldn't suprise me for a mid table Riders team to consider it. |
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Post by massiveridersfan on May 8, 2024 7:01:23 GMT
The last thing I want is for Riders to play in Europe atm. Finances need to be strong before we venture into Europe and that means we need to be filling our arena virtually every game, which definitely isn't happening yet. Eagles have done brilliantly building their fan base. I don't think we need a complete rebuild but the balance of the team isn't good and if there's any spare cash it ought to be invested in a team that can compete with all the other BBL clubs, except of course the ridiculous £ions. Timoney at Glasgow has poured money into the club but not on the scale of London which has utterly distorted the league. I really hope whichever teams end up facing each other in the final of the playoffs it isn't £ions that win it. We have a BBL where we know the league title is a foregone conclusion weeks before the league games are completed so the only interesting competitions are the Trophy and the Playoff. That's not good for professional basketball in the UK. A bit like watching the Harlem Globetrotters - the result is never in doubt and it's not really entertaining, unless you're aged five.
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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan2 on May 8, 2024 8:46:26 GMT
If all goes well for both sides I wonder if could be looking at an Eagles vs Riders neck and neck race? Well, that's a first. I know its usual for Phoenix to be written off at the start of the season but never to be dismissed 5 months before it starts. Can't we finish this one first because we're still playing! |
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Post by johnjack on May 8, 2024 10:13:17 GMT
The last thing I want is for Riders to play in Europe atm. Finances need to be strong before we venture into Europe and that means we need to be filling our arena virtually every game, which definitely isn't happening yet. Eagles have done brilliantly building their fan base. I don't think we need a complete rebuild but the balance of the team isn't good and if there's any spare cash it ought to be invested in a team that can compete with all the other BBL clubs, except of course the ridiculous £ions. Timoney at Glasgow has poured money into the club but not on the scale of London which has utterly distorted the league. I really hope whichever teams end up facing each other in the final of the playoffs it isn't £ions that win it. We have a BBL where we know the league title is a foregone conclusion weeks before the league games are completed so the only interesting competitions are the Trophy and the Playoff. That's not good for professional basketball in the UK. A bit like watching the Harlem Globetrotters - the result is never in doubt and it's not really entertaining, unless you're aged five. You may say that but was the Trophy final result ever in doubt before the game? I would say the same if the Phoenix get to the playoff final. Cheshire are probably the only team in the league that have made London look beatable, not just in the Trophy final. At the Copper Box in December they were up but made a few mistakes to lose the game. Same goes at EPSV last game of the season. This is amazing considering the lack in funding. Nix have committed to a style of play which is a little different to the traditional BBL style, maybe this is the future |
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Post by massiveridersfan on May 8, 2024 11:27:31 GMT
The last thing I want is for Riders to play in Europe atm. Finances need to be strong before we venture into Europe and that means we need to be filling our arena virtually every game, which definitely isn't happening yet. Eagles have done brilliantly building their fan base. I don't think we need a complete rebuild but the balance of the team isn't good and if there's any spare cash it ought to be invested in a team that can compete with all the other BBL clubs, except of course the ridiculous £ions. Timoney at Glasgow has poured money into the club but not on the scale of London which has utterly distorted the league. I really hope whichever teams end up facing each other in the final of the playoffs it isn't £ions that win it. We have a BBL where we know the league title is a foregone conclusion weeks before the league games are completed so the only interesting competitions are the Trophy and the Playoff. That's not good for professional basketball in the UK. A bit like watching the Harlem Globetrotters - the result is never in doubt and it's not really entertaining, unless you're aged five. You may say that but was the Trophy final result ever in doubt before the game? I would say the same if the Phoenix get to the playoff final. Cheshire are probably the only team in the league that have made London look beatable, not just in the Trophy final. At the Copper Box in December they were up but made a few mistakes to lose the game. Same goes at EPSV last game of the season. This is amazing considering the lack in funding. Nix have committed to a style of play which is a little different to the traditional BBL style, maybe this is the future Think you misunderstood my argument. |
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Post by irf on May 8, 2024 11:42:32 GMT
The last thing I want is for Riders to play in Europe atm. Finances need to be strong before we venture into Europe and that means we need to be filling our arena virtually every game, which definitely isn't happening yet. Eagles have done brilliantly building their fan base. I don't think we need a complete rebuild but the balance of the team isn't good and if there's any spare cash it ought to be invested in a team that can compete with all the other BBL clubs, except of course the ridiculous £ions. Timoney at Glasgow has poured money into the club but not on the scale of London which has utterly distorted the league. I really hope whichever teams end up facing each other in the final of the playoffs it isn't £ions that win it. We have a BBL where we know the league title is a foregone conclusion weeks before the league games are completed so the only interesting competitions are the Trophy and the Playoff. That's not good for professional basketball in the UK. A bit like watching the Harlem Globetrotters - the result is never in doubt and it's not really entertaining, unless you're aged five. Its that age old question for BBL though MRF What percentage of fans at a typical Riders game have ever seen a BBL league table? I think there are plenty of fans being entertained at BBL basketball games older than 5 years old who would obviously like to see the home team win but have no interest or knowledge in a BBL League Table It's a strange sport in that respect |
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Post by robh92 on May 8, 2024 12:41:29 GMT
The last thing I want is for Riders to play in Europe atm. Finances need to be strong before we venture into Europe and that means we need to be filling our arena virtually every game, which definitely isn't happening yet. Eagles have done brilliantly building their fan base. I don't think we need a complete rebuild but the balance of the team isn't good and if there's any spare cash it ought to be invested in a team that can compete with all the other BBL clubs, except of course the ridiculous £ions. Timoney at Glasgow has poured money into the club but not on the scale of London which has utterly distorted the league. I really hope whichever teams end up facing each other in the final of the playoffs it isn't £ions that win it. We have a BBL where we know the league title is a foregone conclusion weeks before the league games are completed so the only interesting competitions are the Trophy and the Playoff. That's not good for professional basketball in the UK. A bit like watching the Harlem Globetrotters - the result is never in doubt and it's not really entertaining, unless you're aged five. Its that age old question for BBL though MRF What percentage of fans at a typical Riders game have ever seen a BBL league table? I think there are plenty of fans being entertained at BBL basketball games older than 5 years old who would obviously like to see the home team win but have no interest or knowledge in a BBL League Table It's a strange sport in that respect You're absolutely right, but that's a far more complex issue about getting people to follow and take a real interest in the league. I'm not sure that's a problem that'll ever get resolved in our life time. |
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Post by Stephen Abootman on May 9, 2024 16:11:03 GMT
Allen won't win MVP but neither will most other players. I don't think there's a particularly strong candidate anywhere this season outside of the top two teams. Doesn't mean there's no good players outside of London and Cheshire.
His style of play may not be fantastic to watch. When the shots don't go in it's pretty ugly in fact. But I think he's more of a fit for this particular Riders team than some might imagine. Forrester described us as a 'bunch of wings who can get their own shot', or words to that effect on the last SNB and I think that's about right. Take Kimbal out of the mix and that's literally what we are. And even with him in the side, I still think DIY scoring has pretty much been the identity of the team this season. The first thing that comes to mind when you think of Mackenzie is probably a mid-range pullup. He's a pretty good player but he's not a guy that creates tons of easy offense for others. I'm afraid two full seasons later we've still not remotely figured out the PG position post-Geno. Hopefully that will change this summer.
I think Ted is definitely the most likely guy on this Riders team to draw interest from higher up places this off season. Particularly if he has another big summer in Canada. I reckon he's got one of the more eye catching resumes in the league this year outside of London.
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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan2 on May 9, 2024 17:58:19 GMT
Allen won't win MVP but neither will most other players. Agreed, in fact it'll probably be just the one. |
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Post by Stephen Abootman on May 10, 2024 1:39:09 GMT
Spot on Azania. Expertly summarised.
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