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Post by Stephen Abootman on Jul 19, 2023 2:51:28 GMT
Busy old day in the BBL off season...
Obviously disappointed to lose Whelan but it was starting to seem increasingly unlikely that he'd be back. And I'd rather see him go to Gladiators than those lazy Geordie hacks. Would he be back in Leicester next season if we'd got our act together and made Europe work? Hard to say really without knowing what the extent of Gladiators' 'ambition' is or how much money they're willing/able to spend to get there.
When he first put pen to paper with Riders I really don't think anyone could have foreseen him having the impact he's had. No one batted an eyelid when he was first announced as our player. He was coming off back-to-back poor seasons in Spain and I was thinking maybe a decent, cheap bench player. Probably nothing more. To say that he exceeded those expectations would be an understatement. He's been a completely transformed player in a Riders' uniform. Whether he'll be quite as effective on another team remains to be seen but it certainly leaves us with a big hole to fill. In terms of value for money, I can't imagine there's been a better signing in the BBL the past two seasons.
Didn't realise Robinson was still pursuing a playing career. Thought he'd retired. Good add for Scorchers I reckon. Respected veteran who continued to perform well in a reduced role last time out at Lions and will potentially bring a bit of toughness and 'will to win' to a club that sorely needs it.
And TJ Lall... Well, who the f#ck knows really. BBL followers seldom have much to say about *new* signings and this one's clearly no different. Played in the Canadian college system up until the end of the 2022 season so has only had one year to pursue pro basketball overseas. Had an OK stint in the Japanese top tier last season. Didn't pull up any trees but it's a pretty strong league I think. Cheick Diallo (five years NBA experience) and Ekpe Udoh (seven years in the NBA, Euroleague winner with Fenerbahce) played on the same team. Has also been a decent-ish player in the CEBL, most notably with Guelph a few years ago. This is basically a long winded way of saying I've no idea whether he'll be good, bad or indifferent. Assuming Conner is back, plus Bowman and Walshe, that gives us quite a lot of rotation-worthy 'Brits' now. If we make good use of our import slots we could be quite deep next season. Albeit with a lot of new faces and a couple of guys with worrying injury histories.
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Post by baldeagle on Jul 19, 2023 20:03:49 GMT
Busy old day in the BBL off season... Obviously disappointed to lose Whelan but it was starting to seem increasingly unlikely that he'd be back. And I'd rather see him go to Gladiators than those lazy Geordie hacks. Would he be back in Leicester next season if we'd got our act together and made Europe work? Hard to say really without knowing what the extent of Gladiators' 'ambition' is or how much money they're willing/able to spend to get there. When he first put pen to paper with Riders I really don't think anyone could have foreseen him having the impact he's had. No one batted an eyelid when he was first announced as our player. He was coming off back-to-back poor seasons in Spain and I was thinking maybe a decent, cheap bench player. Probably nothing more. To say that he exceeded those expectations would be an understatement. He's been a completely transformed player in a Riders' uniform. Whether he'll be quite as effective on another team remains to be seen but it certainly leaves us with a big hole to fill. In terms of value for money, I can't imagine there's been a better signing in the BBL the past two seasons. Didn't realise Robinson was still pursuing a playing career. Thought he'd retired. Good add for Scorchers I reckon. Respected veteran who continued to perform well in a reduced role last time out at Lions and will potentially bring a bit of toughness and 'will to win' to a club that sorely needs it. And TJ Lall... Well, who the f#ck knows really. BBL followers seldom have much to say about *new* signings and this one's clearly no different. Played in the Canadian college system up until the end of the 2022 season so has only had one year to pursue pro basketball overseas. Had an OK stint in the Japanese top tier last season. Didn't pull up any trees but it's a pretty strong league I think. Cheick Diallo (five years NBA experience) and Ekpe Udoh (seven years in the NBA, Euroleague winner with Fenerbahce) played on the same team. Has also been a decent-ish player in the CEBL, most notably with Guelph a few years ago. This is basically a long winded way of saying I've no idea whether he'll be good, bad or indifferent. Assuming Conner is back, plus Bowman and Walshe, that gives us quite a lot of rotation-worthy 'Brits' now. If we make good use of our import slots we could be quite deep next season. Albeit with a lot of new faces and a couple of guys with worrying injury histories. Two or three observations: 1. Agree with you on Whelan, although having seen him in Spain his potential was clear. Signing him was terrific business for Leicester, and he’ll be a loss. But at least you will have the pleasure of knowing that Caledonia will be over-paying for him! 2. Riders will be fine despite personnel changes because they have an excellent and experienced coach who will make it so. 3. TJ Lyall - as you say, who knows, but I would be optimistic. Paternostro will have done his homework & he will have received a detailed appraisal from Kimbal who has been playing with him on the same team in the Canadian league. Now, back to those Geordie hacks for some more lazy recruitment 🙂 |
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Post by sonjel on Jul 19, 2023 22:24:12 GMT
Jubril to Sharks see here |
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Post by dexter on Jul 20, 2023 7:32:30 GMT
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Post by jt on Jul 20, 2023 10:40:04 GMT
2 year deal as well! I presume even with an Irish passport he's still classed as an import? |
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Post by dexter on Jul 20, 2023 11:33:09 GMT
2 year deal as well! I presume even with an Irish passport he's still classed as an import? Irish have the right to live and work in the UK. But I don’t know how that works for a Canadian with an Irish passport. He has played for Canada but not recently. Could he be a target for GB? |
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Post by jt on Jul 20, 2023 11:38:15 GMT
2 year deal as well! I presume even with an Irish passport he's still classed as an import? Irish have the right to live and work in the UK. But I don’t know how that works for a Canadian with an Irish passport. He has played for Canada but not recently. Could he be a target for GB? Interesting, I would think then if he has the right to live/work in the UK he won't need a work permit potentially not making him an import. I think he'd represent Ireland, not GB. However per FIBA "A player who has competed in an official FIBA competition after reaching age 17 is tied to that country." |
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Post by Stephen Abootman on Jul 20, 2023 17:25:11 GMT
Christian Cunningham added to Flyers
Clifton Moore added to Gladiators
Cameron Christon added to Phoenix
Conor Morgan added to Lions
Matt Morgan added to Lions
Rickey McGill added to Eagles
Jules Dang-Akodo added to Patriots
Mason Faulkner added to Patriots
Taylor Johnson added to Patriots
Jubril Adekoya added to Sharks
Quin Cooper added to Scorchers
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Post by Stephen Abootman on Jul 20, 2023 17:33:12 GMT
Irish have the right to live and work in the UK. But I don’t know how that works for a Canadian with an Irish passport. He has played for Canada but not recently. Could he be a target for GB? He played for Canada in their World Cup qualifiers as recently as February this year. I've listed him as an import but I don't know if that's right. |
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Post by dexter on Jul 20, 2023 17:52:11 GMT
Irish have the right to live and work in the UK. But I don’t know how that works for a Canadian with an Irish passport. He has played for Canada but not recently. Could he be a target for GB? He played for Canada in their World Cup qualifiers as recently as February this year. I've listed him as an import but I don't know if that's right. Interesting, I didn’t realise that. Canada have qualified for the World Cup. He seems like a really high quality player. We will have to wait and see if he is classed as an import. It could be argued either way. |
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Post by mansfieldmike on Jul 22, 2023 13:34:26 GMT
We will have to wait and see if he is classed as an import. It could be argued either way. Who is going to tell us the import status of their players, no one appears to have that responsibility. |
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Post by dexter on Jul 22, 2023 14:12:39 GMT
Who is going to tell us the import status of their players, no one appears to have that responsibility. This is on the BBL website: “What is the BBL player eligibility criteria? In the summer of 2020 the BBL Clubs voted to change the player eligibility for BBL Competitions (to take effect in the 2020-21 season) to provide more opportunities to British players.” “The new eligibility allows teams to play a maximum of five over-18 non-British players per game. All remaining spots on the team have to be filled by British passport holders.” From this we can assume Conor Morgan is classified as an import but with the benefit of not having to get a work permit. The only twist could be that 777 Partners could change the rules from British to British or Irish if they want to add another import. There would be nothing usual about that if they did that imo. |
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Post by Stephen Abootman on Jul 23, 2023 17:36:30 GMT
Who is going to tell us the import status of their players, no one appears to have that responsibility. Unfortunately a lot of BBL clubs aren't particularly forthcoming with this type of information. I have to imagine there's someone on here clued up enough to know what Conor Morgan's status will be but we don't seem to have a definitive answer yet. Pretty confident I've got everyone else so far listed correctly. |
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Post by mitch21 on Jul 27, 2023 20:10:57 GMT
Scorchers sign Cameron Cameron Gooden for his rookie season
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Post by dexter on Aug 17, 2023 16:06:17 GMT
Manchester Giants have resigned guard Callum Jones.
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Post by dexter on Aug 17, 2023 17:45:42 GMT
London Lions head coach Petar Bozic.
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Post by spacejammer on Aug 17, 2023 22:44:12 GMT
Came back to look at this thread after the Eagles announced that tommorow we will find out our group for Europe then next week the fixtures.
I have to say though whilst we have signed a strong team, I reckon we going to need atleast 3 more players if we're going to juggle the BBL and Europe successfully.
Right now we look dangerously low on personal so I'm hoping we have more signings to come.
Mind you looking at the rosters printed above I'm starting to think someone needs to remind the Giants that this isn't a 3 v 3 league as it seems like they have barely signed anyone right now?
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Post by dandayr on Aug 18, 2023 12:12:37 GMT
Mind you looking at the rosters printed above I'm starting to think someone needs to remind the Giants that this isn't a 3 v 3 league as it seems like they have barely signed anyone right now? up to 4 now - Callum Jones return was announced yesterday |
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Post by voise on Aug 18, 2023 13:45:19 GMT
Make that 5 - Evan Walshe
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Post by reallyoldfeenixfan2 on Aug 18, 2023 22:11:38 GMT
Mind you looking at the rosters printed above I'm starting to think someone needs to remind the Giants that this isn't a 3 v 3 league as it seems like they have barely signed anyone right now? up to 4 now - Callum Jones return was announced yesterday Involved as an assistant coach as well as playing. Could be be that they'll have as many coaches as players. Can't see any quantity nor quality (Jamell apart) in that line up. |
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