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Post by LTfan on Nov 8, 2022 12:30:50 GMT
There’s a general consensus that London Lions missing piece of the puzzle is a good Point Guard.
I've sort of said this in jest before, but now I'm going to ask the question seriously... would a return of Justin Robinson help London?
I'm not sure if he's fully recovered from last season’s injuries, but I know he's unsigned.
On the one hand I don't think he's quite the calibre of PG London need, at least not now in his career. And I'm not sure he'd be a good fit in the 'new' Lions organisation/team either.
BUT, equally I don't think his addition would make anything any worse.
Of course if he's still not fit to pay it's a moot point. He may also now consider himself retired, but he's said nothing official on the matter.
Thoughts?
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Post by gardielo on Nov 8, 2022 14:50:05 GMT
If he is fit he would definitely help in the BBL. Proven player, scorer. He is a very good PG
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Post by D44 on Nov 8, 2022 14:56:13 GMT
He was walking around on crutches for quite a while after having persistent injuries for pretty much 2 seasons, likely to be still recovering. Assume he may have had ACL surgery or similar? It's a shame about the lack of transparency on matters like this.
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Post by irf on Nov 8, 2022 16:30:24 GMT
With all the investment Lions have made they should have a starting point guard significantly better than the rest of the BBL point guards
Surely?
Last few days ive seen Fletch and now Robinson put forward
Hence I suggested Crandall. We know he was a level above the rest when he was here.
Surely Lions can afford Crandall or somebody better than Crandall?
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Post by LTfan on Nov 8, 2022 16:41:54 GMT
With all the investment Lions have made they should have a starting point guard significantly better than the rest of the BBL point guards Surely? Last few days ive seen Fletch and now Robinson put forward Hence I suggested Crandall. We know he was a level above the rest when he was here. Surely Lions can afford Crandall or somebody better than Crandall? I did question whether Justin Robinson is of the right calibre. But I suppose my main point was that Justin Robinson is local and available now (if fit), and therefore could possibly fill a gaping hole immediately. But I was really just throwing it out there for discussion more than anything else. |
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Post by stevetino on Nov 8, 2022 17:11:19 GMT
lions should just get Lockhart In at pg, he’s the man
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Post by oneeightseven on Nov 8, 2022 17:55:34 GMT
They're top of the league and have a 16 man roster, how much help do they need?
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Post by gardielo on Nov 8, 2022 19:03:31 GMT
They clearly need help at guard. They don't have a capable pg
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Post by samgray on Nov 8, 2022 20:41:04 GMT
If they want to make playoffs in Europe Tyrese Rice or Malcolm Delaney. Cut koufos.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2022 21:57:20 GMT
They definitely need a higher calibre player than 35 year old, barely played in 2 years Justin Robinson lol
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Post by LTfan on Nov 9, 2022 9:20:57 GMT
They definitely need a higher calibre player than 35 year old, barely played in 2 years Justin Robinson lol There's sometimes a difference between what you need and what you can get. What they need is a high calibre PG with Euroleague/Euro Cup experience. But is one available, right now? My logic with regards to Justin Robinson is that he's unsigned, a known proven PG with BBL and Europe experience, and is already based in London. And now much longer can London continue without a decent PG? But I'll leave it there as I'm starting to sound like Robinson's agent. And I'll admit I'm not convinced he's of the right calibre or that in returning to Lions he'd get the respect from the new team of egos he'd need to make an impact. It's been interesting to hear everyone's opinions though. |
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Post by notoriousbigz on Nov 9, 2022 11:47:58 GMT
I know he's got significantly higher pedigree than anyone else on the roster let alone the rest of the league - but is Koufos really delivering for the money they're paying him?
Controversial - but if he were cut the money they'd save they could get an all action point guard.
PS no way this team should be losing domestic games.
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Post by massiveridersfan on Nov 9, 2022 12:22:44 GMT
lions should just get Lockhart In at pg, he’s the man I love ironic posts. |
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Post by samgray on Nov 9, 2022 13:40:04 GMT
I know he's got significantly higher pedigree than anyone else on the roster let alone the rest of the league - but is Koufos really delivering for the money they're paying him? Controversial - but if he were cut the money they'd save they could get an all action point guard. PS no way this team should be losing domestic games. Don’t just steal my message and use fancier sentences, grammar and stuff! |
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Post by gardielo on Nov 9, 2022 16:30:10 GMT
This isn't really about Justin it's about Lions dire need for a top quality guard. Koustas has been a major disappointed IMO
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Post by notoriousbigz on Nov 9, 2022 17:30:55 GMT
I know he's got significantly higher pedigree than anyone else on the roster let alone the rest of the league - but is Koufos really delivering for the money they're paying him? Controversial - but if he were cut the money they'd save they could get an all action point guard. PS no way this team should be losing domestic games. Don’t just steal my message and use fancier sentences, grammar and stuff! When did you say this? Have you been subliminal messaging me? I mean its a fantastic point, but I'm since led to believe their contracts are guaranteed. You didnt misread that. Even Tarik Philips. |
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Post by Stephen Abootman on Nov 9, 2022 18:24:15 GMT
The scapegoating of Koufos seems a bit unfair to me. I'll confess I've not exactly been glued to my screen watching Lions' European campaign but I went to Riders' season opener at the Copper Box and thought the guy played pretty well. And he's averaging an efficient near double double, playing only a shade over 20 mpg. I can't help but think he'd be missed more than some are imagining. Zubcic's game seems to be very perimeter orientated and he hasn't been brilliantly efficient thus far. And I don't think Sharma is one you can comfortably rely on for big minutes. I quite like him as a player. Very athletic 7 footer who brings a ton of energy to the floor. But he's also a foul machine. Averages seven per 40 minutes. Works well as a 15 mpg spark off the bench but probably not so well in a larger role.
Given that all of the existing guards have been varying degrees of bad, should there not be more talk about cutting one or perhaps two of these guys? I get that Koufos will be a big earner but I doubt there are many on this roster making peanuts. And I don't think you'd need to spend an absolute fortune to improve on what they're currently getting from the guard spots.
I said in August the balance of this roster wasn't great. That given the resources, the backcourt looked to be lacking creativity, seniority, ultimately quality. It wasn't a difficult observation to make. Questionable recruitment and poor performance from the current guards is what has landed Lions in this spot. If Koufos has to be the fall guy for the mistakes/failures of others so be it I guess but it seems a little harsh to me.
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Post by samgray on Nov 9, 2022 22:18:00 GMT
Don’t just steal my message and use fancier sentences, grammar and stuff! When did you say this? Have you been subliminal messaging me? I mean its a fantastic point, but I'm since led to believe their contracts are guaranteed. You didnt misread that. Even Tarik Philips. Madness, or is this standard with new teams in Europe trying to make an impact? I see Monaco are overpaying consistently in EL and only have attendances of 3000 |
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Post by gardielo on Nov 9, 2022 22:18:14 GMT
I agree. The guards should be first on the hit list. None of them have cut it.
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Post by samgray on Nov 9, 2022 22:21:01 GMT
The scapegoating of Koufos seems a bit unfair to me. I'll confess I've not exactly been glued to my screen watching Lions' European campaign but I went to Riders' season opener at the Copper Box and thought the guy played pretty well. And he's averaging an efficient near double double, playing only a shade over 20 mpg. I can't help but think he'd be missed more than some are imagining. Zubcic's game seems to be very perimeter orientated and he hasn't been brilliantly efficient thus far. And I don't think Sharma is one you can comfortably rely on for big minutes. I quite like him as a player. Very athletic 7 footer who brings a ton of energy to the floor. But he's also a foul machine. Averages seven per 40 minutes. Works well as a 15 mpg spark off the bench but probably not so well in a larger role. Given that all of the existing guards have been varying degrees of bad, should there not be more talk about cutting one or perhaps two of these guys? I get that Koufos will be a big earner but I doubt there are many on this roster making peanuts. And I don't think you'd need to spend an absolute fortune to improve on what they're currently getting from the guard spots. I said in August the balance of this roster wasn't great. That given the resources, the backcourt looked to be lacking creativity, seniority, ultimately quality. It wasn't a difficult observation to make. Questionable recruitment and poor performance from the current guards is what has landed Lions in this spot. If Koufos has to be the fall guy for the mistakes/failures of others so be it I guess but it seems a little harsh to me. I love Koufos as a player.. don’t think you can get over 15-20 decent minutes out of him in Europe though and he doesn’t fit with the way they are playing. Easy to say get rid from my position but big European teams make big changes yearly. However if bigz is right and all contracts are guaranteed it’s a moot point anyway and there won’t be changes! |
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